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My wife told me off the other week for taking a pinch in church. I couldn't (and still can't) really see her point. The whole thing reminded me of Pope Urban putting a ban on snuff taking in church as sneezing was considered too close to sexual esctasy.
My point is: if the pinch is done in a quick, discreet manner and I don't sneeze loudly afterwards what harm is there?
I suppose her concern is that a church is an important place (if you're a Christian) a Holy place & Gods house so taking a pinch of snuff - which is essentially taking a drug - might be inappropriate in a church or maybe the fact that I use snuff embarasses her a little (I suspect it might be the latter as she isn't even religious)
What is an appropriate/inappropriate place to take snuff? I know there are rules of etiquet for taking snuff but are there any rules about where it is acceptable? I suppose a person should use their discretion but it seemed ok to me!
Has anyone else here been reprimanded for taking a pinch of snuff in the wrong place? -
Tell her you have a personal relationship with god and she said it was OK.
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Ha!
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Jesus was definately a man ;o)
Sorry to drop this random question in Stitch but has anyone ever told you that you look alot like the actor Richard Dreyfuss? I've just seen your profile picture and the likeness is uncanny (I think so anyway!) -
Of course he was!
Yes, I've heard there is a resemblance. I think RD is ten years older than I, and looks it. -
HOLY CRAP, I was just watching What about Bob? on TBS the other day and you do look exactly like him!!!! Wow thats crazy.
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I think part of the reason he looks it is apparently he's an alcoholic...not too good for the complexion
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That and a cocaine abuse.
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CommentAuthorTroutstroker
- CommentTimeJun 20th 2008 edited
I think taking a pinch of snuff in church is about the same as drinking a beer in church or sipping the flask. -
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No it's not the same. In some churches on Cassubia you actually can take snuff. Sometimes even priests do it :)
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CommentAuthorTroutstroker
- CommentTimeJun 20th 2008
I guess it depends on where your from and your denomination. That wouldn't be thought of here. If the priest took snuff while in church, he would be thrown out of the church. -
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no matter where you stand on snuffing in church it's still better then smoking a cigar in church.
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Well I do it!
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My flip comment aside, I personally would not do it - a hour or two without a whiff isn't a terrible sacrifice to keep the peace at home. It could be a real problem if you spilled your snuffbox all over the pew. Could be in the doghouse for weeks. Try Oliver Twist tobacco bits. They are very satisfying and you'll be a lot safer.
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CommentAuthorsnuffgrinder
- CommentTimeJun 21st 2008
I think that I'm going to look at emigrating to Cassubia. -
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Me too! ;o)
The church I go to is nice & relaxed so I don't think the Minister would care too much but for the sake of 'keeping the peace at home' (as you put it Stitch) I probably won't do it.
Personally I don't see that its any different from chewing gum in church or sucking on a travel sweet...drinking a beer? I don't think thats quite the same. -
- CommentAuthorejacerooni
- CommentTimeJun 21st 2008
i just saunter off to the bathroom when i am out with the fam and hope none tryes to leak outta my nose. -
I go to catholic churches and some of them in my area have bars attached to them in the church hall, I've seen at least one catholic priest pulling a pint and it does tend to change the atmosphere a bit. Although I've never had a pinch in church I think I could just about get away with it in mine
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i do not visit churches but have to stay in buddhist temples for some time sometimes. i cannot smoke in there but i sure would do snuff. still it probably would not be a good idea being caught doing that.
personally i am just not able to take religion serious, but to those who do it apparently is offensive to take snuff or anything in a "holy place". -
A holy place deserves respect whether or not a person belongs to that faith. Personally I am a Christian but if I found myself in a Synagogue, Mosque or a Buddhist Temple I would still show respect for the place. Its simply common courtesy.
My local church provides coffee & tea after every service which is consumed within the church, I got married before I was a Christian but we had our marrige blessed (to keep the Christians in the family sweet) in the same church and we were drinking champagne inside. I now attend the same church as often as I can as a Christian (I converted in January this year)
If the Minister is happy with alcohol being consumed within his church (only on special occasions you understand) I doubt he would frown too much on a little snuff being taken (as long as I do it discreetly) but I do agree with the view that a high level of respect should be maintained when inside a church so I have decided to refrain from snuff-taking for the service. Its not a hardship to go an hour without snuff. -
I wonder if I'd get away with taking a pinch half way through a sermon..?
Read William Blake's, "The Vagabond", where he says that if church was more like the pub, it would be full all of the time...
Anyway, joking apart, I think that snuff taking during the service should be frowned upon, and, one should not be taking snuff near the Altar, etc., but at the back of church, with a coffee? Well, I would turn a blind eye to this, as long as the person concerned offered me a pinch too! Just think at Harvest Festival, along with all the usual offerings being placed in the church, a tin of snuff! -
Are you actually a clergyman Paul?
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well, i just wanted to make a difference between showing respect for religion (which i do not) and between showing respect for peoples feelings (which i normally try to do).
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I am presently an Ordinand in training, and, if all goes well with this, I will be ordained to the Priesthood early next year... By the way, snuff is very helpful when I am trying to get my head round New Testament Greek, along with some of the finer points of theology and doctrine!
Have just had a new cassock arrive, and am presently trying to work out how to incorporate a little pocket for my snuff box in the waistband that goes with the same. However, please be advised that I would not take snuff during a service...
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Best of luck with it. I think you are probably as well not to use it when on duty. There's a difference between us parishoners possibly getting away with it and the guy up front doing it, maybe there shouldn't be a difference but there is. But I would say that only applies during a service, I don't see why you couldn't have a pinch with your tea afterwards - tobacco, like wine, is a gift from God, its only our abuse of it that creates a sin out of it.
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Snuffster,
You have a very enlightened soul... -
Maybe I should be a priest
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I snuff anywhere I can do it without getting caught.
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Good for you, Bryan, and long may it continue...
I do believe that we should all be able to act freely within our lives, as long as we do not go out of our way to offend others in the process. As most religions and philosophies witness, if we each treat the other like we would wish to be treated ourselves, then we ain't going to go far wrong.
So, happy snuffing and long may it last! -
bro. paul: i heartily agree with the "golden rule"
and i always found the idea of being a priest very fascinating. as i stated, i have no love lost for religion whatsoever but devoting oneself to an ideal sounds a very good plan to me.