metal or acrylic snuff bullets. which works best for the buck

I got a acrylic snuff bullet from TOQUE last yr and love it. Been thinking of getting a few more and a metal one as well. Do they work as well or better? Those things are handy and i LOVE EM!

greencrow

The metal ones work fine. I have three of them and they do the job. The plastic ones don't look or feel as nice but you can shave the plastic ones to get better hits. I end up using the plastic one as much if not more than my metal ones just because I can get a bigger hit with fewer turns.

Toque

I prefer the acrylic, especially if you pimp them. 

JohnnyFriday

Yeah. I just got a metal one... and I think Im going to need 8-10 in each nostril.  I check the amount on a piece of paper several times and was quite underwhelmed. 

How much more do the acrylics do?

JohnnyFriday

So, update on my metal bullet.  I ground it out and increased its volume a little over double, plus there is kind of a cup at the top that helps hold more, also you have to tap it hard to get it to fill.  I take the valve out to check, and even with a dry toast it doesnt want to fill instantly... Im thinking about working on the hole from the vessel to the valve to see if it will transfer easier that way.

Good luck.  Where there is a will there is a way.  

Oh, and I like it when it works. Not bad.

Dogwalla

I've got an acrylic with a glass jar.  I like the action better, but it doesn't hold enough of the goods to be useful.  I may try pimping my aluminum bullet, but I'm afraid I'll mess it up.

The other problem is even my aluminum one doesn't even hold a full gram (I weighed it with Shot of Rum).  That's nowhere near enough to last me for a day.  I usually take the bullet if I'm just going on a short outing.  The acrylic I have (crappy design) holds about half of that.

JohnnyFriday

I used a torx screwdriver that was slightly smaller than the original hole and opened it up to where the internal chamber and the exterior are basically the same size.  I then ground a cup damn near to the rubber ring to increase the volume a tad more. When I beat it like crazy with a HDT in there, all I see is just a faint amount of snuff coming out of the inlet hole. If I had better tools I could do more.  

It took quite a bit of grunting to do it, but I just worked on it while watching a tv program, and before I knew it I had her finished. Also, mine whistles, so I hit the inlet on both the bullet and the valve a bit and took it out.

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Mr. O

What about the Posh Bullet? They say it works even when hot (it made it sound like it uses a different action/mechanism), holds 3g or something, heavy, etc. I've been tempted to buy one of the brass ones.

JohnnyFriday

I don't have personal experience with it but here are 5 reviews and 1 comment.  They don't seem to be all that positive.  There is another one reviewed on amazon, and the person basically said it was inadequate for using cocaine, and they have to use dollar bills instead.

http://www.amazon.com/Posh-Snuff-Bullet-The-Ultimate/product-reviews/B002KRFZBK/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Or you could just get this.  Its a Razorblade and snorter combo. Its a unitasker, it will probably only work for serious "snuffers" ;)

Mr. O

Thank's for the link dude! Does seem like a bummer. I was hoping the mechanism would be really good. Idk, the plastic and plastic/glass ones have a limited functionality in my experience and I've tried at least 3 different brands of them. I have to twist the thing and then tap it kinda hard on a tabletop upside down just to get a teensy bit of snuff in the chamber. Can't someone invent a nice, solid, high functioning bullet?

JohnnyFriday

I dont know, my metal one is the same as your plastics. If I whack it hard it will fill the chamber and its ready to go.  Im not sure how Ill do that while driving... 

miamimark

This thread got me thinking, searching for for bullets... I found this by accident.... I'm not suggesting anyone buy it, I just thought it was kinda cool, never saw anything like it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VICTORIAN-STERLING-F-B-TELESCOPING-SNUFF-SNORTER-CHATELAINE-CHARM-CASE-/230736994787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b8ff21e3#ht_720wt_1163

Dogwalla

Has anyone tried the posh bullet?  By the picture, i couldn't tell it was big enough to hold 3g...that could be my ticket.

Edit:  Damnit...I just found this on snuffgear.com "The Posh Snuff Bullet can hold about .8 of a gram."

Crap.

hooked

This is my favorite bullet, got two of them. I wrote and asked if they could make a slightly larger model but never heard back. It works great and a better than average hit without modification.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Snuff-Bullet-Nose-Modicum-U-S-Made-/140647597157

Dogwalla

@hooked That looks pretty sweet.  I've have to give it a try.  Thanks =D

Mr. O

Hooked- how much does it hold right out of the box?

Mr. O

Was thinkin' that a bullet with instead of a tapping and rotating mechanism, using a screw/drill bit type mech.  No more turn the chamber, turn upside-down, tap, turn right side up, turn the chamber thing then sniff. Just a thought...

OscarWabbit

I'm not a fan of bullets for snuff. The dose chamber is always too small and repeated snorts just empties the bullet in a very short time.

hooked

I'm the same, rarely do I carry them unless just a short jaunt somewhere. If those are bullets, then I have a suggestion for a muzzle loader. Anyone got a exercise ball air pump lying around? My wife went and grabbed it for me to try snuff with as a joke, but upon further inspection and giving it a whirl, discovered a snuff applicator that works like no other. No kidding, load the blue port (on my model), align with the nose and a quick squeeze. You'd think it would blow your head off but it's not like that at all. It's not portable, by no means, but well worth the cost in the experience!
http://www.amazon.com/Yoga-Direct-Ball-Foot-Pump/dp/B003JM6WNU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328132733&sr=8-2

Juxtaposer

I certainly would be interested in a snuff gun.

MrColcannon

Just purchase adhesive nasal strips and a snow shovel, now that is snuff love. :)

hooked

@Mr. O  I just weighed out a nearly full bullet. Only .6 of a gram. Not nearly enough to last long.

JohnnyFriday

Hooked, you happen to have on of these style of bullets? They claim 3 grams, but if so I am going through about 8+ grams a day... which is alarming.  I fill them and pack them several times along the way untill they are very full.

Dogwalla

I weighed mine the other day, that is exactly like that, and it held just under a gram of Shot of Rum.  perhaps 3g is if you are snorting crushed granite.

JohnnyFriday

Thanks dogwalla.  How packed was it?

If I go to town packing it, I have to whack the crap out of it to get more than 1/4 of the bowl. And it takes about 7 snuffs for to start working well. You can really go to town packing the damned thing, because even when its full and packed you can keep screwing down the back lid to free up a little more room... but it just doesnt work well that way.

Dogwalla

I just tap my aluminum bullet on the business end to pack it.  It's been such a pain in the ass to use the thing if I overfill the bullet with snuff that it just doesn't seem worth it.  Although, some snuffs unclump easier than others.  Quit seems to turn itself into sedimentary rock, while HDT behaves well and I can jam a little more in there.  My personal rule is that if it's an easily clumping snuff I only fill it to where the threads start after it's packed with tapping.  Easier to unclump snuffs I still do the tap packing, fill the whole thing up, and let the threads do a final compaction.  If I really need to bring more than that with me I either pack a snuffbox or an additional bullet.

I which my aluminum one had the offset like my acrylic one does.  The alum one can leak if you leave the pointer down, and they acrylic doesn't.

JohnnyFriday

My Metal Bullet

Pros:(after modification)

-Decent hit, may take 2 per nostril

-Mess free

-No nose/mustache staining

-Convenient on the go

Cons:

-Small volume, Holds about 3 hours snuff for me

-Can be messy to fill if you dont have the right tool

-Have to be masochistic to get a good hit(beat the thing)

-Some snuffs are less cooperative than others

scopopulus

I bought 6 of the acrylic Toque bullets for my first order( the 6 for 5 deal )

Pros:

Portable

Discreet

Quick and easy nostril satisfaction

Survived at least 3 trips through the washer & dryer

No problems of getting brown smudge all over your face if you miss your nose with a pinch

Cons:

If you fill them with too much snuff, they will crack. 

If you tighten them too much, they will crack. 

If you drop them, they will crack.

Sometimes, I don't sniff it out of the bullet properly and it lands right behind my eye - instantly blind in one eye!!

2 of 6 had an o-ring that was too big or too small.

Overall, I like them a lot and I would buy them again. I probably won't though, because I prefer to pinch.

Obviously, metal is more durable than acrylic, and won't crack when abused.

Mr. O

hooked, thanks for doing the research! The quest continues...

Gsnuff

@hooked @juxtaposer

Frustration with the bullets led me to develop my favorite "gun": 3 inch piece of clear aquarium tubing, heat the edges on one end until they curl about 1mm. Then slide one of your spare silicon ear buds up to the end (that you just curled). The ear bud becomes a nose plug so the snuff doesnt blow all over the place.

Tap the earbud into your snuff (works best with finer drier snuffs) once or twice. place earbud at nostril entrance. Insert other end of tube in lips.
Give a soft puff while holding your breath (so the snuff wont go to the throat).

pretty much my goto method these days.

Be careful doing this with the 'whites'...

Dogwalla

@Gsnuff I gotta try one of those.  I can just imagine doing that in my office and my boss walking in.  He's pro-snuff, but he'd still give me the strangest looks.  Hahahaha....

Toque

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  How to Pimp your bullet - from an earlier posting.

  
  

  How to Pimp a Toque bullet. Take a thin knife and insert into the hole where you
  would sniff from and pare a little of the plastic, then pull out the tap and by
  paring away some of the plastic enlarge the snuff chamber. When you replace the
  tap make sure the rubber ring is bedded down properly. You can now take larger
  doses from the bullet.
  
  Another really good tip that came to light on
  snuffhouse is, place your forefinger over the dispencing hole, turn the bullet
  upside down and rotate the tap a number of times. This fills the dosing hole
  with a perfectly acceptable portion of snuff. 

Mr. O

I must try that, thanks Roderick!

Dogwalla

You know, I've gotta give it to the coke fiends.  A well rolled dollar makes a hell of a good sniffer.

Plus, it only costs a dollar.

Slide

Plus...when you unroll it you get a full refund

n9inchnails

And your also sniffing all the dirt and shit from the countless hands of countless sickos and god only knows what they were doing when they put their dirty hands on that money your sticking up your nose

JohnnyFriday

And your dope...er snuff gets stuck into the folds on the end it makes you sad.

Snuffster

Good for toasts and white, useless for absolutely everything else. It's time someone made a genuine bullet for snuff because the idea is great, but we are using head shop junk. Maybe one of the retailers could help with this; the metal ones would just need the manufacturer to do a very small amount of re-tooling.

JohnnyFriday

Basically the same design, but an Auger in the little neck that leads from the canister to the valve. If you use a clockwork style cog, you could theoretically make the auger controlled by the valve/cup.

Toque

Maybe we on snuff house could design a new improved bullet. If it was blow moulded like the acrylic ones we sell, I'm sure I could convince a mould maker to make it. I'm sure a double type bullet could be easily made.  

Dogwalla

My vote would be for 1.5g - 2g capacity, offset air hole (so it doesn't leak when the valve is pointed down), a larger diameter valve to accommodate a variety of replaceable valves with different portion sizes (so we don't have to pimp them), a bottom fill the same diameter as the alum ones or larger (the removable container ones are way harder to fill imho), and finally an extra o-ring on the other side of the portion dent to help with snuff leakage and air exposure.

That's just me, in my perfect world.  I would pay good money to live in my perfect world.

JohnnyFriday

I was thinking about it, and if you used the design of a cam follower click pen, and just down scaled it to about an inch and a half, you could create a threaded attachment that attaches to the bottom of the metal bullet.  The pen tip would basically be the opening from the snuff container to the valve, but it wouldnt go that deep. So, you'd turn your valve like normal, give the plunger two clicks, then turn the bullet right side up ready to go.  Hopefully Ive made sense.

The spring wouldnt be near the "plunger tip", but encased inside the threaded capsule attachment. Id have to photoshop something probably to make it come across right. Or find a hardware store with the right threaded tubing to work with my current bullet.  So it would look kind of like a short mascara brush.  It has the plunger stick, and then encased in the handle is the spring assembly and the cam system.  On the end of the handle would just be a button. the thing threads onto the bullet, and the plunger rod goes into the bullet like a half inch or 3/4 or whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dDiXJsmDOQ

Mr. O

Now were getting somewhere!

Busta

I've wondered about bullets? I re fill a Ozona orange tap tin and find it very handy. So handy I can snuff while driving. Who needs a bullet?

Snuffster

@Toque = The metal ones that you and others sell are a great design. They just need to be scaled up so that the dosing chamber holds four times as much. The nice thing about the metal ones is that with the addition of a few spare o rings they would last a lifetime. I would be the world's biggest fan if bullets worked for all snuff types and gave a good hit without having to modify them yourself, and if the dosing chamber was enlarged they would work for all snuff types, not just the very dry and fine ones.

Toque

Yep, I'm with you there Snuffster. The main reason I don't like the metal ones is poor quality control. I guess that we through away more than 10% of the last lot of metal bullets and I just can't find better quality that is constantly up to snuff. Literally! As demand increases, and it is every day, I think we'll see a need for a specialist dispenser and it may take the shape of something completely different from current bullets.   

miamimark

I always dream of a larger compartment in a bullet, the dose size is fine for me, I use scotches, (Togue) toasts and Dholokia almost exclusively.... I envision something like a Mont Blanc pen sized bullet, with a clip to put in my shirt pocket....   

JohnnyFriday

Like a paintball gun.  You just put your snuff in the hopper, throw a co2 cartridge in there, and you're ready to go.

howdydave

I got a metal one but it doesn't have full range of motion.

One vent only opens half-way and the other doesn't open at all.

That's ok, I prefer the boxcar method anyway!

JohnnyFriday

@howdydave

I have no idea what you mean.  Yours has two valves? What style of bullet is this?

Dogwalla

Has anyone restricted the size of the air hole on their bullet?  My acrylic/glass one seems to have just the right resistance when I sniff, but the aluminum one flow free enough that I'm way more likely to get the snuff where I don't want it.  I'm just wondering if anyone else has found a good solution before I get all mad scientist with it.