OT The RPG Thread

To avoid dragging another thread too far off topic, I'll just open this one.  I know @MikeMoose has played Chrono Trigger and enjoyed it.  Any other RPG fans in here?  I just beat the first Phantasy Star last Monday, probably going to fire up a game of Phantasy Star II sometime soon.  I've also got a 25% finished save of Shin Megami Tensei to move on in.  It might be an ugly game to look at, but it can be pretty interesting, and is supposed to have quite the storyline to it.  It spawned a whole series of games (Shin Megami Tensei and Persona series, amongst others) that have been of interest to me for a while, so I'd like to beat it and have the full back story first before I continue on to the others.  For the most part I stick to gamesthat were published on the original Play Station or earlier, as there haven't been many since that have managed to suck me in like some of thos old ones do.  At any rate, not enough to justify buying a new console.  While Mike likes Chrono Trigger, I think my favourite RPG has to be Grandia.  It managed to have a solid 40-60 hours worth of gameplay, while avoiding making you do a ton of grinding to drag out the time some more.  Again, probably not much to look at, but it's real fun to play, and more than makes up for it.  So, anyone else on here, or is it just Mike and I that like the RPGs?

Dogwalla

I loved FFVII and FFIX (US), Legend of Mana, Okage Shadow King, Chrono Trigger, and some others when I was younger.  I just have a hard time getting into the grind these days.  Perhaps my tastes are just changing with age.

Pennanngalan

I love Grandia and still play it on occasion.  Not many RPGs have the playability of it (A shame really).

I much prefer having a table with maps, character sheets and dice though (I'm a grade A, old school dork)

:-"

bob

lost odessy is awesome if you like old school.

 

MikeMoose

AWW YEAH RPG's!  Ahah woot!  I am a big fan.  I use to play Chrono Trigger a LOT .  Beat it too many times, but it is totally awesome, and totally re-playable.  I got into a game called Dransik awhile ago (aka Ashen Empires) .  Not bad either.

Big fan of The Elder Scroll series.  Morrowind was awesome, so was Oblivion...  Yet to try Skyrim!

Unfortunately, I haven't played ANY Final Fantasy games...  And I should!  Because being the RPG fan that I am, I should really try one of them out :-P .

Honestly, Super Mario RPG was actually pretty cool :-P .

FABLE was an EXCELLENT RPG, as well as Fable II and Fable III

And now, for a really interesting Note....

I am working on making an RPG.  :D .  Been working on it for a LONG time...  Mostly because It's just ME working on it, and also because I don't have all the time and/or money in the world to be working on it 24/7 LOL .

My RPG is actually based on Fable.  If anyone remembers Jack of Blades from Fable I ... ?   He is basically the main "Bad Guy".  But in my RPG, he is the main character!  :-P .

I probably sound like a TOTAL Nerd, but Jack of Blades has been, and probably always will be, my most favorite Villain.  So I decided that since I liked him so much, I would create an RPG that revolved around him.  Honestly the graphics are shit...  It's like a Nintendo or Super Nintendo style graphics, or Gameboy LOL .

But let me know what you think of this little post of mine, and maybe I'll make my Demo downloadable from somewhere ...  :)  :D  

Spam

Sounds good to me, MikeMoose. I'm not a big RPG player, but I'm always interested in having a look at other peoples projects.

MikeMoose

Puzzle games are a LOT of fun for sure.

@Spam : I'll need to whip in a Demo CutOff though so don't expect it to be up tonight, I'll try my best though

PipenSnusnSnuff

Another Elder Scrolls series fan here.  I just got Skyrim, but I haven't started playing it yet.  After having logged hundreds of hours in Oblivion, yet never finishing the main quest, I reckoned I ought to do that first.

The PC version of Fable was full of annoying bugs, but it was fun nevertheless.  Has Microsoft even bothered to port the sequels to PC?

I used to play pen-and-paper RPGs years ago, running a few campaigns/chronicles in AD&D, and in White Wolf's (original) Vampire: The Masquerade.

shikitohno

@Pennanngalan:  I'm sure with a bit of googling for bestiary data and equipment lists, you could always knock up your own private pen and paper game of Grandia if you wanted to do your own quests like that.  That actually sounds like it could be some fun if you got creative with the quests you came up with.

Also, an action-RPG that's supposed to be quite good, I've started another attempt at Landstalker.  As I recall, I enjoyed it, but always got stuck at some puzzle or another each time.

bob

Hated the fable series still need to play 3 but found 2 really annoying. Too easy and too lacking in depths. Too many features that just don't have enough flesh. Which means I could almost really really dig it. My first CRpg was phantasy star which blew my mind. Yes Call Of Cthulu is awesome and they made a video game based off of it which although it played like a third person shotter it was really a detective story game and was amazingly awesome. In one of my friends Call of Cthulu games someone based their character off of me and was the only player to survive (in part because of the opium, don't ask too many questions there), Though Skyrim is awesome Skyrim is the reason I've barely been on here and wish real life would go away for a little bit. Also if you like RPGs play the latest bioware stuff because Mass Effect and Dragon Age are amazing series.

ItsMajick

I'm a huge RPG fan. Have played and loved all mentioned in this thread
Currently elder scrolls is my favorite series. I haven't started skyrim yet because I honestly
Believe my wife will leave me once I get sucked in. Lol but not joking

Juxtaposer

I'm not even allowed to think about it.

AllanH

I thought this thread was about Rocket Propelled Grenades!

bob

easy mistake to make. in fact the military makes the opposite mistake more often then you'd like to think. yeah they should bring the grenades instead they launch some D&D at the enemy.

NJE03

Chrono Cross is my all time favorite RPG, followed closely by Chrono Trigger and Legend of Heroes: Tear of Vermillion.

There have been many others over the years as well...

MikeMoose

@AllanH : Oh Allan, how we love thee :-P 

jbruckus

RPG's..probably my favorite genre. Played the original chrono trigger on my ol' SNES, real classic, and also the DS. DS has housed many good RPG's, the most recent I've played on DS was the latest Dragon Quest. I've also played the Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor @ shikitohno . Played Grandia on Dreamcast, loved it. I've played almost all final fantasy games, they are fun for traditional JRPG.

As for new school, I'm also a huge fan of Besthesda's RPGs (the Elder Scrolls Series -  Fallout 3 - New Vegas), I got into Morrowind on the original xbox, then Oblivion on PC, now I'm also playing Skyrim (on PC) and I'm thoroughly enjoying it but it is a bit glitchy. I wish the map was a little more diverse (like Morrowinds) but its still good. If you like these games, then check out Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Very Similar, but futuristic-type post apocolyptic setting, great games.

When taking a break from Skyrim, I'm playing Zelda - Skyward Sword on my wii. Just picked up an hd 3dtv - it can convert 2d to 3d and it makes Zelda look really good. The sword combat is great!

shikitohno

If you played the Dreamcast release, you got Grandia II, which while not a bad game, is far less fun than the original was for me.  The original game was a Sega Saturn game at first, but it never got a Saturn release outside Japan.  There's a part of me that'd really like to see one, just for the novelty of playing it in English "as-intended" with a Saturn controller and what not.  I'm still holding out a vague hope of seeing some sort of translation for Parallel Trippers, but it's pretty unlikely at this point.

PipenSnusnSnuff

@jbruckus: From an article I read a few days ago, it sounds like your wish for more varied scenery will be fulfilled, eventually.  It seems an enterprising modder has discovered that the geography for the entire continent of Tamriel (and, I assume, the outlying islands as well) is already coded into Skyrim.  Can you say, "expansions galore"?  There, I knew you could.
B-)

dazz34

skyrims a great game got it the day it came out on the ps3 over 79 hours so far and the dragons are still kicking my ass at level  36 , its a good thing you can cook your own food in this game as i need reminders to eat at some time its that good...

pot of tea some good snuffs and skyrim = happy time for me

bob

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1hpK6S/www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/07/best-indie-rpgs

bob

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1JSjRV/www.thedailyblink.com/comics/2011-11-16-231.jpg

MikeMoose

@PipenSnusnSnuff : I like how that sounds!  ;) 

jbruckus

@PipenSnusnSnuff -  I'm not surprised. They had a couple expansions for Oblivion, and many for the Fallout games. Also, some things seem like they weren't properly finished in Skyrim. Like chopping/sawing wood for example, like they planned on doing more with it but never finished. Have you noticed others?

@shikitohno -  Grandia 2, yes. Did you own a Dreamcast? How about Shenmue? Loved that game. Way ahead of its time when it was released.

@dazz34 - I'm only about level 22 or so and I'm stuck on dragon fight. The thing persues me relentlessly. I even tried running away , jumping down a ravine into a river, letting the current take me away quickly and he blasts me underwater..lol. Some dragons seem much easier to kill than others, but I think its mostly about how well you can use your environment/surroundings. Like if there is no cover or anything to hide behind, it becomes very difficult to take one down.

@mikemoose -  I applaud your efforts. Its very difficult to create a game on your own. I wish I could contribute in some way. 

bob

@level 69 you can just stand there and throw spells at the drangon.

jbruckus

@bob - yeah, I imagine (like Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout) that once your character gets to the high levels that you become a "jack-of-all-trades" of sorts and its actually hard for you to be killed by anything unless you're not really trying to stay alive.

bob

almost but no where near as bad. In fact just got killed. Doesn't happen as much but.....

bob

actualy getting my ass kicked on the main quest. bandits are a joke though.

MikeMoose

@jbruckus : If you would like to contribute in some way, maybe testing my Demo for me and giving me some criticism?  When I upload it and post the link here too I mean LOL, I still have too much going on at the moment to do anything.

PipenSnusnSnuff

@jbruckus: For both the Morrowind expansion packs, and for one of the Oblivion ones, Bethesda added geography that was not included in the original games.  Even then, it was only a section of Tamriel (or, in the case of Shivering Isle, a single plane of Oblivion).  But this is the first time they've given themselves such a massive amount of virtual space from the get-go.  It seems to me they must be planning to use the Skyrim engine for a long time to come.

shikitohno

Nope, never had a Dreamcast, though I'd like to grab one.  I played Grandia II on the PS2.  Decent game, but definitely a disappointment coming from the original.  Also, remembered the other day, I've got a Final Fantasy Tactics save to finish somewhere.  Played all the other PS1 Final Fantasies, so I figure I may as well finish the set.  I definitely think I would have hated this game as a kid, but I'm enjoying it for now.

jbruckus

@mikemoose - That sounds cool. Take your time with it. I look forward to the day I get to try it out!

@PipenSnusnSnuff - That sounds cool. Speaking of the Skyrim engine, I must admit I don't see much of a difference between it and their last games. Part of me appreciates that they are building upon a good foundation because I do like the game engine and its nice that they are improving upon what they've done in the past (Where as some game series get shuffled from one studio to the next and certain installments may not resemble or play anything like the original or earlier installments) and the other part of me was,perhaps, expecting something different. I don't see much difference between this and New Vegas, or Oblivion. They've added dual wielding, made it look a bit prettier, but the physics are still glitchy and unrealistic. Sometimes you bump into an object and it goes flying as if you punted it like a star football player lol

I have also encountered a game breaking glitch in the main story quest (my brother is also playing and said this didnt happen to him) where I had to keep reloading and old save and back track just to proceed. I finally got it to work but it took many reloads and was frustrating. Anbody else run into any serious glitches?

@shikitohno - If you like FF tactics, check out Knights in Nightmare. There was another great "tactical rpg" I played on DS not long ago but i can't think of the title at this moment. Not sure what you're preferred gaming system is but if you don;t own a DS, you can get them pretty cheap now that 3ds is out. It has one of the largest and most diverse game libraries of any system ever, well over 1,000 titles i believe.

bob

get the updates man. It really helps with the bugs. And what can you expect from something so insanely huge. It's amazing there aren't more gltiches. I find the engine remarkably diffrent from the last one by so much.

jbruckus

@bob - don't get me wrong. Love the series, and i really respect bethesda. As a long time gamer, I like to discuss these things with fellow gamers who know what they're talking about. I'm not trying to be a harsh critic I just dont remember the last two entries being this glitchy and never had a game breaking glitch in either of them. I'm curious as to what you find remarkably different about it? I'll have to get the updates.

If you are curious about the glitch, it had to do with the part of the main story where you have to enter the underground area of the one city and find that member of the blades (the guy who is very paranoid). I'd talk to him and when he spoke no audio came out but the text appeared. Even after choosing the correct phrases his door would not open. After reloading many times and back-tracking it worked by chance. I led him back to the woman and they would not talk to eachother so the mission wouldnt end. Had to exit the building, wait , save it, re-entered, and it worked. Have you had similar experiences?

bob

man oblivion crashed way more for me. I got to the point of saving before entering certain areas. Have only had on glitch like that. Then again the up date really helped haven't had any big glitches then.

bob

then again I find it interesting the how it seems certain games crash and glitch more for certain people. I beat red dead without one glitch I've had games that no one complains about glitches crash chronicaly to the point of just giving up.

jbruckus

What are you playing Skyrim on? 360, PS3, PC? I played Morrowind on the original xbox. Oblivion and Skyrim on my PC. Red Dead is only on 360, right? Never played but heard great things. 95% of the time, PC games are more glitchy (which probably explains why mine seems more glitchy than yours if you're playing the 360 version) because there are so many different hardware and software differences between various computers, whereas consoles are all the same. Yeah, in my experiences, almost every console game is going to run smoother than a pc game.

bob

ah yeah 360

bob

have to admit that I like dragon age 2 better. Especialy when played on the hard setting. It really makes you think about how to go into each combat which is way more fun.

shikitohno

I took a break from the RPGs this weekend, spent the last couple of days up in Troy, NY doing a weekend long birthday party for my friend up there.  Lots of fun to be had just having some drinks with friends and playing Super Mario World.  They've still got a working SNES up there, so we played quite a bit of it.  The other favourite there is Zelda, which I can't say I like too much.  Anyone have an opinion of the Super Mario RPG, though?  I've been thinking of giving it a go for a while now.

joesnuffer

Playing Skyrim on the 360 and loving it.  I still play Final Fantasy 2 and 3, secret of mana, crono trigger, earthbound, and secret of evermore on my super nintendo.  I'm a big fan of RPG games.  Bigger fan of FPS games though.  I never really could get into super mario RPG so the only opinion I have on it is... I'm not a fan.  heh

MikeMoose

ZELDA: A LINK TO THE PAST 

Awesome game.  Nuff said LOL .

I was actually over at a friends place on the weekend, we played some Donkey Kong Country on his SNES and sniffed some snuff.  Good combo!

shikitohno

My friend's actually just beat Donkey Kong Country before we went over to his apartment.  Something about the Zelda games just doesn't hook me, though.  Right now I'm stuck in an evil level on the first one.  I need to kill 8 or so blue Darknuts to advance, and even going in with full health and using my beam, the evil things kill me every time.

Dogwalla

Link to the Past was an awesome Zelda, I think it may still be my favorite one.  My wife just bought me Zelda: Skyward Sword, but I haven't given it a play yet.  I never really considered Zelda to be an RPG, but I enjoy them more than most RPGs.

I'm stunned that nobody mentioned any MMORPGs.  I started with Ultima Online on the original release day (WAY back when), I played that for eight years and really, really enjoyed it.  I hated FF XI, too much grind and bad times soloing imho.  I started playing World of Warcraft again after a couple years off.  They have really changed a lot, and I think the next expansion is going to cater to those of us who don't live in a basement and have Blizzard plasma pumped directly into our veins.

MikeMoose

The Zelda Series is more of an Adventure-Combat, not really an RPG at all...  But it is still great!

Ahhh yes MMORPG's...  When I mentioned Dransik / Ashen Empires, THAT is an mmo .  To be honest I gave WoW a try...  Never grew on me LOL.  Glad I never got into it :-P .  It's just not my thing...  I really use to be into mmorpgs and just rpgs in general but I just don't have the time for them anymore...

But...  SKYRIM...  THAT game I have time for, and it is AMAZING!

PipenSnusnSnuff

Skyrim players, check this out:  http://www.dragonshoutapp.com/

Already available for iOS, soon to be available for Android, too.

jbruckus

@shikitohno -  I love me some Super Mario World. The RPG's (i played on DSi) are fun. As well as the super-paper-mario series which had installments on a few different nintendo consoles! I have a cousin living in Troy. I live about 2 1/2 hrs drive north of there. I like the newer Zeldas better. The last two they've made, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword (still playing the latter) @Dogwalla - Definitely play some Skyward Sword when you get a chance. I'm enjoying it.

I used to be hooked on WoW. I had a level 72 mage in my prime. I stopped playing shortly after the Lich King expansion.  I got sick of paying for it every month. Wasn't worth it to me. Still have a lot of friends playing it. Started playing a free mmorpg called Dragon Quest, pretty fun game. The combat is much better than WoW but I havent played that in a while now either.

shikitohno

Found out that I could get some older RPGs on my budget cell-phone (LG Cosmos II, for those it might help).  I've got Final Fantasy I and II on it at the moment.  And II is the real FFII, like in the Game Boy Advance Remakes.  It works okay, ad the music comes out nice if I put it on.  I'd rather be playing on a device with bigger controls, though.  Also, insane amounts of grinding are basically a requirement.  Though I suppose if you're sitting at the train station with no other way to kill an hour, grinding would work nicely.

shikitohno

So later today I should be heading out and picking up a SNES.  I know about all the Final Fantasies and Chrono Trigger, but are there any lesser known gems for it that yo guys would recommend?  Apparently this place sells copies of Chrono Trigger for only $40 when they get it in stock.

shikitohno

I tried playing the Star Ocean ROM with the translation patch on it, but it was quite of spotty.  For example, item names just show up as gibberish characters.  May just have to buy a PSP to be able to play the official translation of that one...

I forgot about the Lufia's though, I'll have to look into them.

MikeMoose

Lufia I and II, definitely good choices!