Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. May your Christmas be spent in reflection and enjoyment with the spirit of family and friends both past and present.
Merry Chritmas everybody. Lol Trout couldn't agree more, I can probably add a pickled liver and brain to that over New Year I'm off on me Holidays. Wooohooooo \o/
English: Happy Christmas and a Happy New Year, mates! I hope the next year is going to bring you a lot of new snuffs :) And for those who are going to eat supper on Christmas Eve: I hope yours (and my) carp will be tasty ;) Polish: Wesołych Świąt i Szczęśliwego Nowego Roku, koledzy! Mam nadzieję, że nowy rok przyniesie wam sporo nowych tabak :) I dla tych co będą jeść kolacje w Wigilie: Mam nadzieję, że wasz (i mój) karp będzie smaczny ;)
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year....and may your Hogmanay is riotious. Wish I was at the Tron in my kilt!
Make your New Year resolutions in retrospect....every time you achieve something notable say...yep that was one of my new year resolutions....then you only get positive feedback; no guilt.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all dear fellow snuffers. But we may not forget this time is between our civilization a time to celebrate the Birth of the most important person in all our entire History. Best wishes to you all.
@macalpe [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_25#Births]Here[/url] is a nice list of important people born Dec 25th. I woulden't say that any of them are the most important, I say they are all equally as important, as they were humans like the rest of us. Some made a bit more of an impact on the globe, some haven't.
If you were referring to accurate, provable, and well documented history that is. If you wish to discuss mythology, however, [url=http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles2/PelphreyChristmasP2.php]Mithras[/url] was born December 25th
The birth of Jesus Christ is what is traditionally celebrated on December 25th. In keeping with western tradition, I believe that Christ's birth is superfluous to that of Mithras or anybody else on your list (interesting read though, thanks for posting that) and is who macalpe was referring to.
I thought he was referring to someone historically proven to exist. There is no evidence to the contrary, other than a [url=http://www.probe.org/content/view/18/77/]few almost plausable mentions[/url] outside of the bible, which were written by people who weren't even alive at the time he supposedly walked the planet. Darnit I don't feel like googeling my sources at the moment as I don't have them bookmarked, but one of these mentions was proven as a forgery, and one of them was revoked by the original author.
Well the man named Jesus is historically proven, but what's not proven is if he was the son of God and if God is in fact real, you have to have faith for that. There are plenty of written descriptions of a prophet named Jesus outside the bible. Even the Buddhist have written about him in their scrolls telling of Jesus as a wandering mystic who travelled across India, living in Buddhist monasteries and speaking out against the iniquities of the country's caste system. He actually lived with the Buddhist for 6 years during his travels.
There are hundreds of artifacts relating to everything Jesus said and did. All the people Jesus has mentioned, there is proof that they existed, all the places he said he visited, there is proof these places did exist, and so on.
If we are to doubt the historical accuracy of Jesus, we must also doubt the historicity of ones like, Alexander the Great and Napoleon, as there is more evidence of Jesus existence than of theirs.
Could a person who never lived have affected human history so remarkably? Even calendars today are based on the year that Jesus was thought to have been born
But of course I understand that for everything someone says for the idea, someone can say something against the idea so its a never ending discussion/argument. Like the fact that I don't believe we landed on the moon in 1969!
Of course you're right about the moon. We landed there in 43 and if we would have let people see where all the "cool" people live on the moon well it would be shit cakes down here on earth.
Sources man sources. Historically proven? I know not. Otherwise the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus-Myth]Jesus myth[/url] itself wouldn't exist. I'm fairly sure we landed on the moon just as much as Bin Ladin had anything to do with 9/11 (*cough*inside job*cough*) I have faith in nothing without knowledge, and that in itself is an oxymoron as faith requires belief without knowledge.
My previous required sources are located within the above link. Let us not forget [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Who_Wasn%27t_There]The God who Wasn't there[/url]
I will discredit any christian author of text, as they aren't proven to have a desire to keep rational thinking and logic in mind, and choose to instead worship imaginary friends, and try to distort things to see what isn't really there. I would be much more keen to believe in [url=http://www.venganza.org/]The Flying Spaghetti Monster[/url] than Yahweh.
On a side note, I hope none of you socalled christians have erected a x-mas day tree, as it's blasphemous.
[url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jeremiah%2010:3-5&version=31]Jeremiah 10:3-5 NIT[/url] [quote] 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."[/quote]
Amen to your comments in #14, Pedro. Merry Christmas to all fellow Christians. I'm sure that we will all pray for the pathetic bigots that cannot tolerate any public statement of faith.
I tried to keep it to happy "present day", but Macalpe had to go and make a big question out of his post. Then religion other than christMYass got brought in by chas... so of course the only rational thing to do is to keep everything to rational logic, even though a "mass of the anointed one" (christmass for you who don't know the definition) isn't very logical in my standards.
God bless you all. I wish you all nothing but the best this season. I thank you all for the insightful information I have read and I have learned a great deal from you all about snuffing. I’m wishing you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year while sitting beside my Christmas tree. I will pray for all unsettled minds during Christmas Mass on Christmas day. Thanks