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  1.  # 1
    I was right about those Acid cigars packing leaves making a good scented snuff. Mild, medium brown ,dominant tobacco aroma; a hint of spices, herbs, and honey with a surprising amount of nicotine for cigar wrapper leaf.
    • CommentAuthorunChris
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
     # 2
    Really!?!?!? I LOVE acid cigars, used to be on a huge kick with them, a bit pricey though (compared to snuff). My favorites were blondie and tea cold infusion ones.

    So their packing leaves are usable? Did you buy a whole box or just ask a shop for the leaves?

    I don't suppose you'd be selling any of your home made snuff would you? :)

    Which method did you use with these?

    Do you think the cigars themselves would make good snuff?

    -Chris
  3.  # 3
    Of course, the cigars can be used for snuff. I had to buy an "empty" box to get the leaves. The wooden box alone was worth the three bucks. I just set the oven on the lowest setting and dried the leaf for a couple of hours. This rather long winded quote describes my basic method except that I sieve my finished snuff two or three times: "I almost exclusively use an Indian made iron flat bottomed mortar and pestle. The following excerpt from an old pharmacy textbook is how I make my own snuff: "In powdering substances by contusion too large a quantity should not be introduced into the mortar at one time; if the mortar is small, sufficient to cover the bottom for the depth of an inch or two, the flattened extremity of the pestle is then to be brought into direct and violent contact with it, each successive blow being aimed at the same spot in the centre of the circle formed by the sides and bottom of the mortar. When part of the contents under treatment assumes the condition of a fine powder, which is exhibited by the air becoming charged with the dust, it is well to sift it, and thus separate the fine from the coarser particles, these last being returned to the mortar, until a second sifting becomes necessary, and so on until it is finished. A small portion of the drug is usually left in powdering, which it seems impossible to reduce sufficiently, this is part of the ligneous portion,which is frequently inert,..." From an Introduction to Practical Pharmacy (1859)"
    • CommentAuthorunChris
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
     # 4
    I'm going to have to keep my eye out for pestle and mortar sets, sounds like this could be some fun. Thanks for sharing your experiences on here!
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      CommentAuthorsnuffgrinder
    • CommentTimeJan 4th 2008 edited
     # 5
    I should be able to get that snuff off to you by Monday, 1/7. I've been house-bound for over a week due to an injured foot. My apologies for the delay.
    • CommentAuthorunChris
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008
     # 6
    Oh man this stuff is just awesome!!! It's has a wonderful aroma to it that sticks with you well after a sniff. Even though it's a fine dry ground it didn't make me need to sneeze in the least bit. The nicotine hit was huge, like no other. My friend said she's never felt a buzz like that off any nicotine product. I plan on letting everyone else I know that does snuff to try it. This has caused me to REALLY want to start making me own snuff. I think I may go out today and get a pastel and morter and some tobacco, namely acid cigars. This has been a wonderful snuff to try and I thank you so much for letting me. I think we should maybe start a sub-community on this forum and start trading things we make for others to try (I guess thats going on to a lesser extent but I love the idea of just trying stuff thats not for sale anywhere). Well I'm off to do some research, note taking, and make a few purchases, again many thanks.
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      CommentAuthorlofat
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008
     # 7
    sounds awesome! I have a few cigars in my humidors that didn't fair too well being knocked around in my golf bag. I have been wondering what to do with them since I have a hard time tossing away anything that is handmade. I have been looking online a bit the last few days trying to source a good quality (organic if possible) tobacco that would allow me to experiment with making a small batch of home made snuff.

    I think on my lunch break I am going to stop in at the local Whole Foods and pick up my flavoring agent(s).

    Thanks for the inspiration!
  8.  # 8
    Does that mean you liked it? The aroma will actually improve after a few days in a tightly sealed container.
    • CommentAuthorunChris
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008
     # 9
    I loved it! So much so I want to try making my own, luckily I have many nearby cigar shops.

    I just need to find some containers and what not.
  10.  # 10
    The question was facetious. I let the tobacco for this dry out in a plastic bag to preserve the aroma as much as possible. The reason it's not "sneezy" is because I sieved the finished snuff several times. This also improves the texture.
  11.  # 11
    Sounds good. Acid Cigars are definitely good in their own right. About how much leaf is usually in a box? How much finished product did you get?
  12.  # 12
    Hard to estimate, but I'd say over 1 1/2 oz. There's very little waste when making snuff since it's mostly stemmed wrapper leaf. It also makes good chewing and smoking when blended with Burley in a cob pipe.
  13.  # 13
    Not bad at all for the price especially since you got the box with it.
  14.  # 14
    Not bad at all since Prince Albert is up to $3.19 plus tax for 1 1/2 oz. in this area.
    • CommentAuthorunChris
    • CommentTimeJan 12th 2008
     # 15
    Sieved?
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      CommentAuthorsnuffgrinder
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008 edited
     # 16
    A fine mesh sieve is an essential tool for making a smooth textured, finely ground snuff. You'll have to excercise a little creativity in finding or making one since they're not generally available. One guy on the Yahoo Snuffbox was (very) fond of using pantyhose. They stretch too much and aren't very durable, so I don't recommend them to anyone who's not a fetishist. Don't use brass, copper or galvanized mesh since they can add toxic compounds to the snuff. Flour sifters, tea strainers & infusers are too coarse to be of any use in my experience. I use a stainless steel Japanese wok skimmer with a very fine mesh. Muslin or mosquito netting can also be used. I sieve my tobacco at least twice during the making and sieve the finished product at least three times. The particular batch I sent to you was sifted seven or eight times. There are always bits of stem that can't be ground and some of these invariably manage to pass through the sieve. The repeated sifting virtually eliminates them.
  17.  # 17
    This is my homemade sieve. Its a large medicine bottle with the bottom cut off. The mesh is from a super fine mesh ribbon like the type used for wrapping presents etc. It works great & the mesh is easy to change between different snuffs. Can also be doubled up if needed. There is another sieve you can buy that is fine enough. There is a super fine sieve for flower but you have to look for them and there is one made for powdered sugar.

  18.  # 18
    Going have to see if I can find one of those sugar sifters. Would be perfect for final sieving. Guess you have to get one of those at a specialty shop. Good idea, Trout. "Make do or do without" is an excellent philosophy.
  19.  # 19
    I've seen them in a chef supply store before but the ones I've seen were more than I wanted to pay for a sieve. But I imagine with a little online searching you could fine one at a decent price.
  20.  # 20
    I'll just stick with my wok screen for present. Scarcely seems worth the trouble when a plastic bottle, a rubber band, and a piece of fabric will do just as well. If I go commercial it might be something to think about.
  21.  # 21
    Here is a super fine mesh used for confectioner's sugar.

    Extra Fine Sieve

    Stainless Steel Extra Fine Sieve

    And one of these could be used for a super fine light & fluffy floury snuff.
    Permanent Coffee Filter
  22.  # 22
    You're right , all way too expensive. Life's too short to try and rub snuff through that coffee filter.
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      CommentAuthorstitch
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008
     # 23
    I wonder if a piece of nylon pantyhose would work for an extra fine screen.
  24.  # 24
    Addressed that one in the above post.
    • CommentAuthorunChris
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     # 25
    Picked up a pastel and morter from bed bath and beyond for 14 bucks (marble) and pick up a box of acid with the packing tobacco (free), will be giving it a try soon. There is a TON of tobacco there so I might try a few things out. Also Im thinking about trying some speariment tea and maybe mixing some in to make it more refreshing. Will report back with results.

    -Chris
  26.  # 26
    Stone mortars are intended for grinding by rubbing (trituration) so don't try pounding your snuff like I do. You can wind up chipping your mortar or pestle. Andy's snuff making article will give the basics for using your type of mortar: Making Your Own
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      CommentAuthorlofat
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     # 27
    I added organic dried peppermint and spearmint leaves to one of my experiments over the weekend and refreshing it is. I just need to construct a finer sieve like the one TS made to get it to true flower like consistency.
  28.  # 28
    What proportion of mint to tobacco did you use?
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      CommentAuthorlofat
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
     # 29
    I added about 1 teaspoon of each to about 50 grams of tobacco... the tobacco source was a double corona-ish sized cigar - so how much ever that is.
  30.  # 30
    I usually use 1/4 tsp. mint to 1 Tbs. of tobacco. Works pretty well.

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