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Setting up a Beginner's Guide?
  • I regularly read about requests by beginners who would like to get some proposals, which snuff they should start with. And I definitely can remember the time I began to snuff. The amount of offers by local stores was poor and the amount of offers online was absolutely confusing.

    What do you guys think about setting up a guide for beginners. I thought about something similar to a wine guide. We could recommend snuffs according to some categories like mentholated, scented and pure.

    Anyone willing to help me?
  • Sure, sounds like fun to me. I'd start with the coarse, moist, unflavored, medium-nicotine type like Dingler Taxi Blue, Samuel Gawith Blue Crest or McCombie, something like that. One of the first "serious" snuffs I enjoyed was F&T's Morlaix, which has a nice texture and, though flavore, isn't nearly as strongly perfumed as some others from that brand. Of course, if someone is interested in snuff as a stop-smoking aid, my suggestions would be different.

    One thing a lot of beginners do is to order a lot of different flavors from Wilson's, as they offer assortment packages and make an astounding array of flavors. I don't personally think that's a good idea, because Wilson's is mostly all the same stuff, just with different flavorings. One could be led into thinking that snuff is about the flavorings, rather than the tobacco, grind, and moisture content most suited to one's preferences. I was caught in that rut myself for a while and regret having wasted the time. Gawith's wide variety of styles was a great eye-opener for me-- there's every grind and moisture level imaginable.

    These are just some initial thoughts.

    Andy
  • Good to see you like the idea. Lets try to work it out. I anybody else wants to join, feel free to do so.

    Of course, if someone is interested in snuff as a stop-smoking aid, my suggestions would be different.

    Well, I would not recommend taking snuff as a substitute for smoking. I am more into pleasure, than fighting addiction. I understand your point anyway.

    Let me do a rough sketch:

    1. Step: Get to know the basics
    To get to know what snuff is about, we recommend slightly flavoured or unflavoured types. The basis of a snuff is the tobacco used.

    Snuffs:
    Blue Crest by Samual Gawith
    High Dry Toast by Fribourg & Treyer
    Irish "D" Light by Samuel Gawith
    Irish "D" Original by Samuel Gawith
    Kendal Brown by Gawith Hoggarth
    Kendal Brown by Samuel Gawith
    Latakia A0 1860 by De Kralingse
    McCombie by Samual Gawith
    Taxi Blue by Dingler

    2. Step: Try some flavours
    If you think your nose is ready for some experiments, you may enter the world of flavourings. They come in very different types, so that you need to find your favourite taste.

    Snuffs:
    A/P by De Kralingse
    Dr. Verey's Medicated by Samuel Gawith
    Morlaix by Fribourg & Treyer
    Old Paris by Fribourg & Treyer
    Original & Genuine by Mc Chrystal's
    Princes by Fribourg & Treyer
    3. Step: Extraordinary ones
    This category includes snuffs from both ends: high quality snuffs and weird ones.

    Snuffs:


    Everybody: Please feel free to criticise, change or add as much as you want to. This is just a sketch and I am happy about any contributions.
  • Does anybody wants to add his favourite snuff here? Or maybe a snuff on this list shouldn't be recommended?

    I want to make this a PDF with some additional information.
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  • I'm thinking that some mention of texture needs to be made somehow. People tend to gravitate towards a certain level of fineness and dryness that suits them. The list in step 1 should probably contain at least one fine-but-not-dusty snuff, like McChrystal SP or the like. (Speaking of which, I'm not sure that recommending the High Toast styles to a beginner is a kind thing to do.)
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  • Thanks for all the comments! The McChrystal's O&G is on the list already. The others will be considered.

    All right than. I think we should start with the categories and move to the snuffs after that. What about:


    Unflavoured and slightly flavoured types
    Fine and Dry
    Fine and Moist
    Coarse and Dry
    Coarse and Moist
    Flavoured types
    Fine and Dry
    Fine and Moist
    Coarse and Dry
    Coarse and Moist

    Alternatively, we could start collecting the snuffs and try to categorise them afterwards.
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  • I personally don't care about nicotine, but a lot of people do. So, we should add it, you're right. I would say we should collect the snuffs first and see which categories are needed.

    A/P by De Kralingse
    Blue Crest by Samual Gawith
    Dr. Verey's Medicated by Samuel Gawith
    Kendal Brown by Gawith Hoggarth
    Kendal Brown by Samuel Gawith
    Latakia Ao 1860 by De Kralingse
    McCombie by Samual Gawith
    Morlaix by Fribourg & Treyer
    Old Paris by Fribourg & Treyer
    Original & Genuine by Mc Chrystal's
    Princes by Fribourg & Treyer
    Taxi Blue by Dingler
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  • In my opinion this would go one step further. What I thought about was a document to store it local or to it print out. A short overview of snuffs which a beginner might want to try. Your proposal is something I originally thought about. I guess it would end up in a database containing all these things. Interesting, but also quite a lot of work for which I don't got the time, at the moment. In the long run, I would love to integrate such snuff cards.
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  • Actually, we can do so in the category snuff types. This would be very similar to the reviews, right? Still, I also would like to give an overview.
  • Here is a first sketch of what I thought of. Any comments (including correcting my English) are welcome!

    Edit: The Snuff Beginners Guide can be found at the FAQs.
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  • Hi Mo,

    thanks for the feedback. I removed the double description (not online yet). I will also move the shops to the end with some notes on which of the mentioned snuff they carry. I thought a description of the 'how to use snuff' might be too much. But I could include some pictures and the four points you mentioned.

    So far,
    Alex
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  • True! I will also add this to the guide. Making a choice isn't always easy, you're right. :-) Thanks for the hint.
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  • A real life test would be great. I uploaded the revised version (Setting up a Beginner's Guide? # 18). Thank you, Mo.
  • Again a newer version with hints to prevent the snuff hitting the throat (Setting up a Beginner's Guide? # 18).
  • Any further comments? If not, I would publish it here at Snuffhouse for downloading.
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  • All right, I added some pictures (Setting up a Beginner's Guide? # 18). I am glad it helped.
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  • Thank you guys for the feedback.

    Jeff, I think taking a Pöschl in the beginning might be misleading. Once upon a time, I started with the Gletscherprise myself. Today, I wouldn't touch it any more. Only for comparison to other snuffs. The good thing of the Pöschls is, that you can't get them in your throat, unless you eat them. The texture and scent is nothing special nor very pleasant for a beginner. People use it so much because Pöschl is doing a great marketing job, I guess. The snuff is okay, but there are far better ones out there. To sum up: In private, I would not recommend a Pöschl to a beginner, so I don't want to do it here. Being a serious snuffer, you have to try them, of course.
  • Version 1.0 available at the FAQs. Thanks everybody for the help!
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  • Columbia Oil? Good question. I have read somewhere that it serves as a flavour carrier more than a flavour itself. It also adds a certain moisture, I guess.
  • Why, it's the oil of the Columbia plant, of course. Found along the Norfolk and Western tracks in Columbus, Ohio. Used to smoke it when we wuz kids.
  • Thanks for the enlightenment.
  • I'm having trouble regulating the amount I put on my hand with the boxes of Apricot and President. I think maybe I'm getting too much though I try to keep it to the amount of the Packard's measure. Any good tips on amount?
  • I often need to dump some back into the package. I usually do 1 nostril at a time but you can also use the package to make a line or 2 piles. To me a full Packard's club measure is too much for 1 side so I do half in each. Both the apricot and the president are easer to control about half way through the pack. I think it is because it is a bit drier. When it is new and moist it clumps much more.
  • At first i'd recommend pinching from the back of your hand and rubbing it as you inhale.At least untuill you get the hang of it. Then you can directly sniff a quantity a little bit less than the size of a pea without getting hurt :P.
    Right now i go for whatever i feel like , sometimes i pinch for a better flavor , sometimes i sniff about 3 to 4 peas worth of snuff at a time to get a proper nicotine hit.

    Like Jarhog i to put some back in the package if i took too much out. And if it's clumped together i spread it a little bit with my finger (it tends to stick to the plastic container so i don't use that)
  • Thanks so much for the tips. I'm so happy I joined you guys.
  • the rubber tab on the package is great for pushing the snuff around. I find taping the pour spout end on your hand before opening the package and tapping it out seems to help control the amount. I also find that tapping diffrent parts of the container has diffrent effects on the amount that comes out. I prefer the top of the box on the same side as the pour spout.
  • The first thing i would tell the beginner or newbie....
    Is,
    WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME!!!
    Second, I would try then all, dont just stick to one flavor that fits your fancy...

    Third, even if at first you didnt like one give it time, the tin may need to air our a bit. Some as it has been my experience are more of an acquired taste.. I for one do not like aniseed because i dont like the taste of licorice, but i still have several times of them, and on occasion i will take a pinch just for a change of something differant....

    Last but not least is ENJOY, and again WELCOME to an elite group of tobacco user, those who really know the finer joys of tobacco!!!

    McChrystals Og is a good one,
    Polsch Apricot
    Anything toasty or plain with HIGH NICOTINE is a blast
    Schmalzers are fun ones too..
  • Yep, good points Ibild
  • Check Wikipedia for Columbia Oil
  • wikipedia doesn't know what it is. It may have a different name in the English speaking world.
  • First Snuff was W.E. Garrett Scotch. It took three tries to get the delicate sniffing correct. The nic hits you like a hammer which I guess is good for the beginner. I wish i had started with something a little less fine and dry though.
  • Took me about 300 tries. Count yourself lucky.
  • Had two straight ones. Toque and Wilson's Best SP. I have to say that they are both very good and much more suited to my taste than the two American Scotches I had. Now my desire to explore is rapidly growing. Does anyone recommend any sampler sets, or better yet, given a bit of information on one's taste could anyone make several suggestions?

    I just hate wasting things...especially things that other people really like.
  • There are very few snuffs I have tried that I don't like. And I have a rather large collection. Like bigblue said, there aren't many low quality snuffs, just some I don't really like. For example, I just don't like chocolate, so therefore I don't like chocolate snuffs. It doesn't mean that they are bad, it just means I don't like them.