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    • CommentAuthorLambchop
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2007
     # 1
    I thought some of you might find this report by the Federal Trade Commission of the United States on the sales and advertising/promotional expenditures of smokeless tobacco interesting: http://www.ftc.gov/reports/tobacco/02-05smokeless0623105.pdf (that is an Adobe file)

    It covers each year from 1986-2005, and uses data from five tobacco companies: National Tobacco Company, Swedish Match North America, Swisher, Conwood, and U.S. Smokeless.

    Of particular interest is page 24, which details the sales and expenditures for dry snuff (it only concerns domestic US smokeless tobacco, and the five companies I listed, so it is all American snuff). In 1986, 8,110,168 pounds of dry snuff were sold; this amount dropped to 2,402,904 by 2005. That's a decline in pounds sold of 70%. The sales in dollars, however, only went from $58,951,001to $52,968,545, a decline of only about 10%.

    All other categories of smokeless tobacco dwarfed poor old dry snuff, except for plug/twist chewing tobacco, which is doing worse.

    Another point of interest is page 28, which breaks down sales of dry snuff into units, by size.

    Alright, I won't bore you folks with any more detail, but the report is a fairly easy read -mostly just well-labeled tables - if you choose to look at it.
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      CommentAuthormerdock69
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2007
     # 2
    Interesting, I would imagine the Roderick could glean a few insights from this...
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2007
     # 3
    This report is very exciting reading for at least one snuffhouse.org forum member. I had no idea how large a potential market the USA was for Toque Snuff. We in the UK are forbidden from advertising or giving free samples, and risk very heavy fines and worse up to 5 years in prison if caught giving snuff away. If I have read this report correctly, I can give away free samples, advertise, give away merchandise like Toque hats or ‘T’ shirts even give coupons that can be redeemed for snuff and not get prosecuted ?
    No wonder I have had so many companies approaching us for distribution rights.
    Thanks Lambchop your post is much appreciated.
    Roderick
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      CommentAuthorTroutstroker
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2007 edited
     # 4
    Speaking of free samples. For those in the US you can go to Pipe Show Online sign up and you'll get a free bag of pipe tobacco. The one I received is from Tobacco Galleria distributed by Altadis. The flavor is called Blue Note and described as: Burley, Virginia and Green River tobaccos with a delightful aromatic top flavor. Its a 1.5 oz bag. This is some real nice tobacco.

    For a free can of Redman new moist snuff in a can go to Free Can of Redman

    And yes Roderick, free advertisement is given away all the time here in the States. I have a couple shirt given away by alcohol companies, free cups, mugs, shot glasses etc. I have 2 hats from chewing tobacco companies and a handful of key chains. I have received free tobacco products in the past. Half the stuff I wasn't expecting to get. I just registered on their online sites and 90% of them start sending all sorts of free stuff. Tobacco products are given away at fairs and events such as rodeos, fishing tournaments etc. A lot of outdoor magazines have full page ads where they advertise a free can of chew.
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2007
     # 5
    Thanks for all the info. Are any of these mags online so that I can see how the ads look? What mags should I advertise in etc, etc. Any ideas gratefully received.
    Roderick
  1.  # 6
    I'll make a couple scanned copies of the ads and post them.
  2.  # 7
    Roderick, Here are a few ads I have in my mags right now. There are more out there but I don't keep mags around long. Just long enough to read otherwise they pile up to fast! These are full page ads. These are in California Game & Fish mag. If you go to Game & Fish there are magazines for each State. Other mags are: Outdoor Life, Sports Afield, Field & Stream, American Angler, Buckmasters, Bassmasters, ATV Magazine, NRA Magazines.
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2007 edited
     # 8
    Thanks Troutstroker,
    I'll look into these and keep you posted
  3.  # 9
    Hey Roderick, how about givin' away a Free Toque car! I'll have a Mercedes please, a red convertable of course ;)

    MM
    -- O.K. so maybe I'll settle for a Toque hat --
  4.  # 10
    Mountain Man, I think the only Toque cars he has to give away are a 1974 Ford Pinto with a dixie horn!!!!!
  5.  # 11
    LOL, My dad actually drove a 1973 Pinto wagon! Top speed - 55mph - Downhill with the wind at your back!

    It had NO REVERSE!

    MM
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2007 edited
     # 12
    While your on the subject, and before I get to much of the p**s taken out of me, I lived for a year in Vancouver in 1979 and drove a 1977 V8 Mustang. I loved that car. My then girlfriend had a great jeep, I think it was a J72?
    I still think the best story I have of driving in America was on my last trip. I wanted to hire a Cadillac and every time I tried they kept saying but we have a Lexus for the same money. They just couldn’t understand why I wanted a Cadillac.
  6.  # 13
    I love large American automobiles. My last car was a 1978 Mercury Grand Marquis - essentially the same thing as a Lincoln Town car, with the Mercury name. All leather, power everything, smooth and comfortable. wast just up to last year I drove it, 27 years old and still ran great.

    MM
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      CommentAuthormerdock69
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2007 edited
     # 14
    My favorite car I ever owned was a 1964 Ford Thunderbird, it had the 390 ci V8, a swivel seat to assist with exiting the vehicle, and a tilt away steering wheel that would slide toward to passenger seat to assist exitin the vehicle. It had leather, power windows, power locks, power steering, power brakes, and sequential rear tail lights! That car would just glide down the road until you put your foot in it, then it would pass anything on the road except a fuel station... Ahh, the good 'ol days back in high school, when nothing mattered but having a cool car and a couple of bucks for beer and a hamburger...
  7.  # 15
    Well I had 3 cars that I was fond of. 1966 Chevelle, 1969 Malibu both with the 350 and my favorite car of all was a 1967 El Camino SS with 396. I had the 66 in High School then traded for the 69. Fixed up the 69 then traded for the 67. I rebuilt the 396 and bored into a 401. It was a screaming machine. Could hardly keep the tires from smoking. Man I sure wish I still had all 3.

    How come no one has mentioned the 1974 AMC Matador X Coupe? LOL
  8.  # 16
    My first car was a 1974 AMC Javelin, bright orange.
    My mother called it "The Orange Lemon"!

    MM
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      CommentAuthormerdock69
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2007
     # 17
    Got to love the AMC's. There was an old handyman that worked for my dad on his rent houses that had a 70's AMX javelin drag car... That thing used to run 14's in the quarter mile... Fun fun...
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     # 18
    What was the name of the small American car that had the huge glass windows and looked like a mini on steroids. The name 'AMC pacer' keeps coming to mind, but I’m not sure and did it have a big engine?
    I always liked the look but was told by a few people to stay away.
  9.  # 19
    Yes, the Pacer, often called the "Greenhouse on wheels".
    Big engine?, P a h l e e z e!

    MM
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2007
     # 20
    I'd have loved to have seen one with 4.0L was it front wheel drive?
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      CommentAuthorTroutstroker
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007 edited
     # 21
    Is this what your looking for Roderick? 75 Pacer with a 400 Hemi. Does 11 seconds in the 1/4 mile.


    Or how about the Ford Pinto Cruising Wagon?
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     # 22
    The top ones just right, now why coudn't they have designed it like that in the first place?
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      CommentAuthormerdock69
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008 edited
     # 23
    Well, I received four pipe tobacco samples from pipeshow.com. I received Cavindish, Vanilla, Cherry, and Nightcap. I believe all from Tobacco Galleria... Now I just need to get a pipe. Any suggestions? I only want to buy one, period, for life. So, if anyone has a suggestion as to the type, brand or style of pipe to buy please let me know.
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      CommentAuthorTroutstroker
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008 edited
     # 24
    Did you receive a sample of Blue Note? That was my favorite sample.

    For a pipe, your best bet would be go somewhere like Briar Patch or other smoke shop. Talk with the someone there. Have them show you a few that fit what you want & pick out which you like best.
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      CommentAuthormerdock69
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
     # 25
    Nope, just the four listed above... The Cavindish had a subtitle of 'Kentucky Bourbon Whiskey'.
  10.  # 26
    I edited/added the second part comment & you might have missed it.
    • CommentAuthordeficiency
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
     # 27
    Hmmm a Pacer with 400ci ... the words "unsafe at any speed" come to mind. My brother had the misfortune of owning one of them. He wound up running it out of gas a couple of miles from our house and someone broke out the back window ... totaled it. The rear window of a pacer is the most expensive (and probably heaviest) component in the vehicle :D
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      CommentAuthorTheLong
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
     # 28
    Oh man, my first car was a 1987 Buick Riviera. Red velvet seats and that touch-screen computer they stopped making after they started bursting into flames. It had the ol' GM 3800 and would have run forever. I know it was nothing special, but I'll probably always miss my first car.
  11.  # 29
    If you break a fishbowl you don't fix it...you replace it.

    Here's a pic of my ride. It's smurf blue but earns respect via brute force. Bought it in the late 80's from a guy that had several hemi cars but built this to beat them. Runs high 11's.
      442 2005.jpg
  12.  # 30
    Nice ride you got there. Good thing gas is so cheap now days. LOL... Makes me wish I still had all my classics. One of these days I'll get another. Maybe when gas hits $10 a gallon, more people will be selling of their classics for less. My old 67 got about 1/4 mile per gallon but I didn't care.