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  1.  # 1
    Hi all, I was just wondering about the Toque tins and the problem with the aluminum going "out of round" making them hard to open and close. I know this topic was brought up here a few years ago and the OP got alot of flack [mostly because of his attitude I believe] from the members here. I use a variety of snuff and as such it takes forever to finish a tin. I realize that I can always take a moment to round the tins out again with my fingers but was wondering if Roderik had any plans in the future to use a higher quality tin. This gets alittle aggraving at times as my snuffs last several years and I open and close them alot.

    Roderik, if there is a plausable reason to continue using these tins please let me know. I will understand and surely appreciate your reasoning.

    Yea....I know I should consume more snuff then I wouldn't have this problem.

    On a more positive note; I love the embossed lines on the edge. They make it easier for these old arthritic fingers to get a grip. Some of the tins from other suppliers are very difficult for me to open and once in awhile i will spill some of my brown gold.

    I understand this this is a minor problem but I was curious if maybe Roderik might be up for a change in the future.

    Don't hate me cuz I'm old and handicapped.





    no jokes about being mentally challanged please......;)
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      CommentAuthorSnuffin
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 2
    I've noticed that they do tend to bend out of shape as well although other than that, I really do have n problem with them. Awesome product. However I will say that the tins that are used are probably used as they are cheap to make thus increasing profit margins.
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      CommentAuthorbob
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 3
    I hate the toque tins. The problem with the last post about definatly was the guys additude about it. I was expecting him to say heads will roll and the streets will run red with the blood of tin makers. I just hate how when I order a toque tin it gets to me bent to hell.
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      CommentAuthortom502
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 4
    I like the Toque tins. Sometimes they can get sorta oblong, but I found them easy to just bend back to round.
  2.  # 5
    i find this happens however i have never found a tin to be unusable
    • CommentAuthorNachman
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 6
    At least they are threaded. Just don't carry them in your pocket.
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      CommentAuthorbiskup666
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 7
    I like the Toque tins, they seem to be solid and it's impossible for them to open in my pocket. I had a problem described by Premium Parrots with one tin only, also the screw on the top part of the tin kind of broke and I can't close it properly anymore. However it happened to only one tin that I bought quite long time ago, I didn't experience any problems with tins from my other orders.
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      CommentAuthorbob
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 8
    What the hell! I get one that doesn't come to me like that. What's going on here.
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      CommentAuthorSnuff Head
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010 edited
     # 9
    I've had a few of the Toque 25g tins jam and had to use maulers to open. I only order the 10 g tins now and think there great. OK, maybe not too strong but then they are aluminium. I think Roderick went this way with the tins to cut down on the postage.
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      CommentAuthorBart
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 10
    They aren't bad. I just make sure I press down lightly and look across the top of the lid before turning, so there's no cross-threading. The only strange thing I've seen on the last couple tins is the circular cardboard insert under the lid wants to always fall out when I open up. No big deal, though
    • CommentAuthorwhistlrr
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 11
    I haw bought a LOT of toque tins... one came a bit dented looking, another a 25g of Cheese & Bacon doesn't really clsoe all the way (just keeps spinning to 'almost snug" 'almost closed' then goes loose again). most of them (in both 10g and 25g) have been alright

    I just most of all really wish snuff makes would make more uniform shaped containers (not to mention would be good and air tight), would make stacking and storing loads easier if they did
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      CommentAuthorBart
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 12
    I did receive three or four tins with some kind of coin in them which promptly threw out. That's the only other strange thing that I recall
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      CommentAuthorbob
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 13
    you're joking about the coins right. Thanks for reminding me I hate 25 grm tins the 10ers are totaly fine with no problem.
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      CommentAuthorXander
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 14
    LOL, Bart.
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 15
    As everyone here knows I have an open policy with Toque and am happy to discuss anything bar our recipes.

    The first batch of 25g tins we bought from this company had a fail rate of nearly 50% which I felt was outrageous. I had paid half upfront and all the company was prepared to do was take them back and replace them with a new batch. This new batch has a much lower, but still significant fail rate of 7%. What is covered in this “acceptable” fail rate is tins shearing their threads. At the time the only other tins available were the conventional snuff tins. These are significantly cheaper, but, as most are aware, have their own set of problems.

    The good news is the 10g tins are far superior; the bad news is we have approximately a years supply of the 25g tins left, however the best news is we have now found an almost perfect tin that will be replacing them when they are finished.

    If anyone has any problems with a tin, and doesn’t have a snuff box to decant the contents into, just let me know and I will get a replacement tin included with your next order.
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      CommentAuthorRoderick
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     # 16
    Nice one Bart.
  3.  # 17
    I'm quite sure that Roderik picked the aluminum tins because they are highly unlikely to corrode like steel tins. Maybe tins with alittle less aluminum and more alloy would be less likely to bend easily. Yea the lighter weight was probably another thing Roderik took into consideration when making his choice.

    Its a great design and size all a round.......they just don't stay round. ;)
  4.  # 18
    I only buy the 10g tins, and only one out of the 30 odd I've bought (a tin of Absinthe) had a knackered thread - which I had to decant to an old 10g Wilsons tin. The main problem is my clumsiness. I drop tins very often. With my McChrystals and Wilsons tins, this is not a problem, but the Toque tins deform and dent very easily so that they become impossible to close again. Call me odd, but I now keep my daily snuffs in old 5g Wilsons tins. I love them. I would be perfectly happy if Toque used the same tins as Wilsons of Sharrow, and if they're cheaper, even better. But I may be in the minority.
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      CommentAuthorkjoerup
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010 edited
     # 19
    I only buy the 25g Toque tins, and I've bought quite a few, I tell you. I'm addicted to the 6 for 5 deal. The only problem I have with these tins is that usually 4 out of the 6 arrive with dents, but as noted above, they are easy enough to fix. Only in my last order did I encounter a failure. The tin of Peppermint opened itself and so did the plastic bag. A lot of the snuff spilled into the envelope, but at least about half of it was still in the bag, so I managed to salvage around 12 or so grams. I never had this problem before, so I really do think it's an anomaly.

    I ought to emphasize that this is not Roderick's fault. I blame it on rough handling by the post office.

    For what it's worth, the best tins bar none are the 10g ones Lush uses for their lip balms: non-rusting solid aluminum (not at all flimsy), the best screw threads ever to be put on a tin, period. Yes, these make perfect snuff tins, and I reuse them for that. These will never open in your pocket, guaranteed. All snuff should come in these.
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      CommentAuthorBradMajors
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     # 20
    I always immediately decent the contents of Toque tins into old Fribourg and Treyer tins. I'm pleased to hear there's improved tins on the way as they're currently probably the worst on the market.
    • CommentAuthorTc2642
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     # 21
    Never had any problems with the 10gm tins myself, even when carrying them around but I usually decant into my snuff box or a bullet.
    • CommentAuthorwhistlrr
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010 edited
     # 22
    my 'snuff tin' (where my mixes go mostly) is one of the McChrystal's S'nuff little tins. If I am going to go out I'll still take a bullet. if its a snuff that wont work well in a bullet then I just have to use it at home (czech tool is working okay for now at home, but dont want to hve it out using it in public, its too big in my hand and looks quirky or something to me)

    EDITED to add -- plus having a tin and largey foldy czech tool (things I also only have one each of) are just too more things I an lose or leave behind more than a bullet I can pop back in its fanny pack pocket. If I had one of those nice little snuff spoons that might go on a lanyard it might be different. for now this is good for couch and computer.
    • CommentAuthorrobbo
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2010
     # 23
    My 2 cents: I think an F&T style tin would be perfect - or at least a tin of the same gauge.
  5.  # 24
    Its the "mickey mouse" labels I cant stand. Why, when we have a proud tradition of snuff production going back to the seventeen hundreds and beautiful labels like WoS and F&T, does Toque produce something that looks like it belongs in a cheap comic. No one would consider putting a label like this on a bottle of wine so why do it to snuff.
    Incidentally, I have just thought of a way to get rid of all those faulty 25g tins. It involves the label designer but would not be allowed under the UN charter as it would be considered "cruel and unusual" punishment
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      CommentAuthorXander
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2010
     # 25
    Sometimes tradtions can me an impediment to introducing new product, or opening up to a new generation. Toque's labels are deliberately contemporary.

    I've seen less classy wine labels. Plenty of them.
  6.  # 26
    I was speaking from an Englishmans point of view. Obviously, different cultures are impressed by different things.
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      CommentAuthorSnuff Head
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2010
     # 27
    Let's not fall-out over this. I too like to go in my old unspoilt English Pub with a tin of snuff with 'Est. 1737 Made in the UK' printed on the label.
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      CommentAuthorhooked
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2010
     # 28
    From an Americans point of view, I like the tins and the label. What's wrong with snuff, is that no new marketing has been tried since the seventeen hundreds. Kudos to Toque. But maybe... I'm partial to Mickey Mouse!
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      CommentAuthorSnuff Head
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2010 edited
     # 29
    In this day and age it is nice to see some old established companies still carrying on. So to is it to see new, smaller ones opening and then growing.
    • CommentAuthorLondon Jack
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2010 edited
     # 30
    Whoops, sorry if I have offended anyone. Just read my last posting again and see it could be misinterpreted as being sarcastic. It was just meant to be an observation.