I hate the toque tins. The problem with the last post about definatly was the guys additude about it. I was expecting him to say heads will roll and the streets will run red with the blood of tin makers. I just hate how when I order a toque tin it gets to me bent to hell.

i find this happens however i have never found a tin to be unusable

I like the Toque tins, they seem to be solid and it's impossible for them to open in my pocket. I had a problem described by Premium Parrots with one tin only, also the screw on the top part of the tin kind of broke and I can't close it properly anymore. However it happened to only one tin that I bought quite long time ago, I didn't experience any problems with tins from my other orders.

I've had a few of the Toque 25g tins jam and had to use maulers to open. I only order the 10 g tins now and think there great. OK, maybe not too strong but then they are aluminium. I think Roderick went this way with the tins to cut down on the postage.

I haw bought a LOT of toque tins... one came a bit dented looking, another a 25g of Cheese & Bacon doesn't really clsoe all the way (just keeps spinning to 'almost snug" 'almost closed' then goes loose again). most of them (in both 10g and 25g) have been alright

I just most of all really wish snuff makes would make more uniform shaped containers (not to mention would be good and air tight), would make stacking and storing loads easier if they did

you're joking about the coins right. Thanks for reminding me I hate 25 grm tins the 10ers are totaly fine with no problem.

As everyone here knows I have an open policy with Toque and am happy to discuss anything bar our recipes.

The first batch of 25g tins we bought from this company had a fail rate of nearly 50% which I felt was outrageous. I had paid half upfront and all the company was prepared to do was take them back and replace them with a new batch. This new batch has a much lower, but still significant fail rate of 7%. What is covered in this “acceptable” fail rate is tins shearing their threads. At the time the only other tins available were the conventional snuff tins. These are significantly cheaper, but, as most are aware, have their own set of problems.

The good news is the 10g tins are far superior; the bad news is we have approximately a years supply of the 25g tins left, however the best news is we have now found an almost perfect tin that will be replacing them when they are finished.

If anyone has any problems with a tin, and doesn’t have a snuff box to decant the contents into, just let me know and I will get a replacement tin included with your next order.

I'm quite sure that Roderik picked the aluminum tins because they are highly unlikely to corrode like steel tins. Maybe tins with alittle less aluminum and more alloy would be less likely to bend easily. Yea the lighter weight was probably another thing Roderik took into consideration when making his choice.

Its a great design and size all a round.......they just don't stay round. ;)

I only buy the 25g Toque tins, and I've bought quite a few, I tell you. I'm addicted to the 6 for 5 deal. The only problem I have with these tins is that usually 4 out of the 6 arrive with dents, but as noted above, they are easy enough to fix. Only in my last order did I encounter a failure. The tin of Peppermint opened itself and so did the plastic bag. A lot of the snuff spilled into the envelope, but at least about half of it was still in the bag, so I managed to salvage around 12 or so grams. I never had this problem before, so I really do think it's an anomaly.

I ought to emphasize that this is not Roderick's fault. I blame it on rough handling by the post office.

For what it's worth, the best tins bar none are the 10g ones Lush uses for their lip balms: non-rusting solid aluminum (not at all flimsy), the best screw threads ever to be put on a tin, period. Yes, these make perfect snuff tins, and I reuse them for that. These will never open in your pocket, guaranteed. All snuff should come in these.

Never had any problems with the 10gm tins myself, even when carrying them around but I usually decant into my snuff box or a bullet.

My 2 cents: I think an F&T style tin would be perfect - or at least a tin of the same gauge.

Sometimes tradtions can me an impediment to introducing new product, or opening up to a new generation. Toque's labels are deliberately contemporary.

I've seen less classy wine labels. Plenty of them.

Let's not fall-out over this. I too like to go in my old unspoilt English Pub with a tin of snuff with 'Est. 1737 Made in the UK' printed on the label.

In this day and age it is nice to see some old established companies still carrying on. So to is it to see new, smaller ones opening and then growing.

Hey London, non taken. I have to agree, I think the F&T tins are the coolest on the planet, but they also come at a premium. My observation is this, if the government mandated 'THIS TOBACCO PRODUCT CAN DAMAGE...' warnings gets any larger there won't be any need for label differences.

@Xander: Hehe ! Good to see a nice bit of dry sarcasm isn't exclusive to the Brits :o)

On the Toque label front, I must side with London Jack though. Somebody recently described them as being similar to a power tool logo; I'd have to agree.

I like Toque tins, for the reason that Roderick specified: new snuff=new label.
But just because I'm young and American doesn't mean I don't enjoy the old designs as well...in fact I love them! I told my wife I was going to get the Wilsons of Sharrow pinch guy on the tin tattooed on me, jokingly of course, but she took me serious and nearly freaked out...lol!

I actually like the Toque logo and design. Faux vintage has always looked cheesy to me. A Georgian era label for a company founded in the 21st century would be the snuff equivalent of the Excalibur in Vegas.
Roderick, have you ever thought of sponsoring a cycling team? That logo looks custom made for it!
Nice to meet you all.

Yep, suppliers of fine snuffs since four years ago would definetly impress.
I'm Impressed that he has made it through hard work and customer satisfaction for 4 years. Besides being a very nice Guy to boot.
Ed

I don't know, London Jack. This seems such a niche market that I find it hard to believe than an elaborate marketing plot is necessary to entice a few hundreds. I just appreciate the fact that Toque is making snuff a contemporary thing and a living tradition, rather than something serving historical reenactment purposes.

My two cents about the toque tins/logo -
They remind me of what personal web sites looked like in 1998. Doesn't mean I won't love the snuff though!

I don't know toque almost seems too small for that. Maybe I'am totaly wrong. It seems too like most snuff companies are really small including toque. Not really enough of a market. Either way I don't give a fuck (I say that politly.) because it still works out well for me. Hell even if toque is getting free market research with a character actor I'am still very happy with the results seriously they make a great grape snuff (which is always mislabeled as champagne for some reason). Though I have to add the thing that makes me really feel that you're not one hundred percent correct is the fact that unlike every other person I've seen who's been a living coporate mascot (I've seen more then a few, in fact one of my last jobs was a grocery store whos "owner" was obviously a paid actor) he doesn't have that dead sold my soul look in his eyes. And if he is then at least he enjoys it right.

Sometimes snobbery is more blinding than marketing.

Oh Nelson there are lots of people that market products like that. Reminds me of this club that opened in the town I live in and every hour the same gangsta smooth black man (who looked way to urban to be in this town [please trust me on this one]) in line every hour waiting to get into the club obviously that man was paid to do that. I worked at a place where the owner sold the company he inherited and now he even has a fake wife (the guy is queer as three dollar bill with rockso the clown as the president, of course nothing wrong with that except for how the wife is obviously a cover). Of course to me Roderick reminds me more of the pakistani guy who owns the famous House of Kashmir (was the rock and roll tee shirt head quarters of this town). Who got to know everyone and was friends with every single person he would meet. Both got free work out their customers and you know what I personaly don't mind as I feel it's a pretty even give and take (I'll be happy to know when I enter my viral video finaly for the contest that I'am helping snuff get around a legal issue possibly). As pieter said it's definatly about the snuff. And hell even if Roderick doesn't actualy exsist or is a android or whatever still so glad for every single quality snuff company that exsists. Though I really do just think he's the real deal.
P.S. London I love when people expand peoples knowledge of marketing. It's one of my personal missions right up there with the ruining of terrible news stories as often as possible (even though I only got two under my belt, they are both great stories.)

Here, here Roderick!

Stefan