I recently did some snuff, it was called superior snuff... and it was kinda mentholish and I didn't really care much for it. Anyhow, I really liked the nic buzz I got from it and plan to begin snuffing regularly... however I'm having a hard time finding a variety of snuff in the local stores. It seems that there's just w.e garret scotch/mildsweet or bruton scotch. What does scotch mean? Does it mean its flavored like scotch? I hate the scotch drink and definately don't wanna waste money buying some snuff that I'll end up hating. Do these snuffs have menthol in them, I'm not a fan of menthol either.... anyhow...
Could someone please give me a review of we garret sweet and we garret scotch? As well as bruton scotch?
I plan to order some snuff online in a few weeks when I can afford to buy half a dozen different flavored tins to see what I like the best but in the meantime I'd just like to know if either of the formerly mentioned snuffs would be something that might work for me until I can do this. So that's why I would like a review of each.
This an extracted explanation from a great description that our fellow Trotstroker sent to me weeks ago:
"The name Scotch Snuff was started by the company Levi Garrett which began in 1782. Now in 1880 the company product was being shipped world wide. There is an old explanation that is being lost to history as to where the term "Scotch Snuff" was made. It goes as follows. The Scotch are sometimes referred to as penny pinchers. And of course you can imagine one dressed in plaid as squeezing a coin between his fingers to get the last value from it. This was to explain how this tobacco was to be used, a pinch between fingers. Now Scotch Snuff was made in a certain way. It is made with the darker leaves and stems which are deeper in flavor. They cure this tobacco with fire and is called "dark fire cured". This gives the tobacco its smokey flavor. Now for the sweet or mild they use the lighter colored leaves which are generally more mild and spicy. The curing process is different. The generally use an extract from a plant called Sweetclover. Now they use Sweetclover extract in all the snuffs, Scotch, Sweet and Mild. The difference is for the sweet or mild, they ferment the tobacco by aging it longer than they ferment the Scotch. This helps mellow out the flavor and helps the sweetclover flavor to fully mix with the tobacco. The Mild will have less of the Sweetclover and more of the darker tobacco but is aged longer than the Scotch. The full explanations are hard to come by because the U.S tobacco companies keep all there information as far as how they make it and any other information very private."
I like of all them. American dry snuffs are excellents. But let me get you and advice : if you are a beginner as a snuffer you need to take care trying the Dry Snuffs. I want to say (in my bad English) take it firstly slowly and when you became used to then you may take with no matters. Dry snuffs may be or seems like strong if you are not used to. your fellow ,
Rocky, You won't go far wrong with Toque or Snus Ice. Most snuffers agree that Toque Original is a good snuff for smokers switching to snuff as it is a high quality fine tobacco snuff and Snus Ice is a light peppermint snuff good for beginners. Toque are also just about to launch 3 new flavors Chocolate (a strong dark chocolate) Espresso (a smooth strong coffee flavor) and Menthol (a menthol freaks dream) in mid September. Alex has a link in the ‘FAQs/Guide’ under ‘Shops’.
Alex, I just noticed it states Toque Tobacco (selling filled snuff bullets only). We also sell refills and bullet belt clips.
Of the 3 snuffs you mentioned to begin with I would suggest beginning with the WE Garret Sweet & Mild. It is the easiest of the 3 for a beginner. But it is still fine and dry which is hard for a beginner to start on. Start with very small amounts. You have to learn the correct way for you to take it. If these are the only 3 you have available then this is your best bet to begin. Here is a review of the Sweet & Mild snuff. WE Garret Sweet & Mild The Bruton and Garret Scotch are for the more advanced snuff taker unless you are a previous smoker. If you are a smoker or previous smoker I would suggest Bruton because you would be more used to the nicotine levels and the raw tobacco flavor. When you do plan to order snuff, this store seems to have the best selection with the best price and fast shipping. Marscigars They have both the American style and a good selection of the European styles.
You can also check out the Snuff List on this site. It has reviews on a lot of snuffs. The ones underlined are the ones that have been talked about. Snuff List
Never tried it, but am planning on buying some in the next few days. I have an ignorant question, do people "dip" snuff (i.e. use it orally?) I see the terminology is all over the place when I research it using google and I can't tell if they are making references to oral use as well as nasal use?
Yes, the American (dry) snuffs can be taken orally and a lot of the Old South still do. Not in the same fashion as say Copenhagen where you put a dip in your lower lip but more on the lines of rubbing it on your gums. The most familiar ways to do this is by using a twig such as hickory or other and sticking it in the mouth and chew on the end a little to soften it and moisten it. Then you dip the stick in the snuff then put the twig covered in snuff in the side of your mouth next to your gums. You can rub on gums and remove stick or just leave it in until the snuff has dissolved off of the twig. I have done it this way but prefer to use a twig from fruit trees. Such as plum, apple, pear etc. My favorite to use is dried branch from grape vine, just remove the loose bark first. This can also be done with the finger. Some people also add snuff to there toothpaste. Most of the Dholakia snuffs from India can also be taken orally. Generally in America the term "Snuff" or "Moist Snuff" refers to lip tobacco or chewing tobacco. Nasal snuff is referred to as "Dry Snuff"
Interesting. So is this where we get the iconic picture of the farmer with a twig in his mouth and a handkerchief in his front pocket? Does it all go back to tobacco? Just curious.
Thanks, I've used chewing tobacco (lip snuff and moist leaf) for years and recently began rolling my own bugler cigarettes, but this will be my first venture into dry snuff.
Just picked up some we garret sweet & mild. This stuff isn't intended to be taken nasally? Do you guys do it orally or nasally? Do you think it's more dangerous doing it nasally since its meant to be taken orally? Are the euro snuffs physically composed differently? I'm confused. Looking at the wikipedia entry for snuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff_(tobacco) it doesn't list even list garret.
Anyhow, I packed up my bullet, took a full snort and practically choked to death because apparently I inhaled too hard and the fine dust went directly into my lungs. Woops. Other than that it seems pretty mild, it doesn't really burn or have too strong of a scent. Seems ok but it's not what I expected, I was looking for more of a scent.
I'm looking forward to trying some of the euro snuffs, especially bespoke christmas joy as it sounds very good from the reviews. I plan to order from mars since they are US based and seem to have good selection and prices.
Roderick, I'd like to try toque and snus ice but getting it shipped internationally would cost too much and your new york vendors website appears to be broken. Have you tried gettings mars to stock your products?
Rocky, first Roderick @ Toque tobacco ships Internationally free of charge. Second WE Garrett is made for BOTH oral and nasal use. Were you concerned because it had a warning of gum disease and tooth loss? It is perfectly safe for nasal use. I use it nasally along with a lot of other people. As far as the bullet, I would suggest that you use this snuff with your fingers. It is to light and fine for the bullet. You can keep in bullet then just dump the loaded amount onto back of hand then take with fingers. You have to control the amount that you sniff in with tension on your fingers. You want just a little at a time to enter the nose. With this fine snuff you will just end up inhaling all the snuff into your lungs. The best way 'for me' with this snuff is to take a small pinch between your fingers then tap your fingers on the jar to shake off any loose dust around your fingers. Then bring your pinched fingers up to the nose so that your two fingernails are just touching the inner rim of the nostril. Lightly "smell, sniff" the snuff and as you are doing this I like to roll the snuff between my two fingers. You will have to figure out for yourself how light or hard to sniff!!!
All of the American snuffs are made to preserve the true tobacco taste so they won't be scented very much. The most scented of these snuffs is probably Honey Bee. If your looking for a strong scent, you won't find it in these. You might like to try Dutch Windmill Latakia Orange or the A/P. All of the Bespoke flavors are good. Just about all of the Poschl/Ozona brands you can sniff just about as hard as you like without it going into the lungs or back of throat. Something like Poschl Gawith Apricot or Ozona Spearmint. It will all depend if you like menthol or not and if you like heavy or light scents.
Wikipedia may not list it but they also don't list about 6 dozen others. WE Garret is made by the Conwood Co. You can see the site here Conwood .There is also a nice little video on the Poschl site showing how they make the snuff. Poschl Video The video link is on the top right listed as Corporate Film.
Hi Rocky, We mail all over the world with no charge to our customers. In fact not only do we pay all the international shipping/postage, Americans get a tax reduction on the display price (we really have to do something on the website to show this, a job for tomorrow). The price quoted is £3.99 for bullets yet Americans only pay £3.39 and £1.99 for refills equals only £1.69 at the checkout, as UK tax is deducted. Roderick
Thanks for the comments guys there is certainly a good community here on this site :)
Troutstroker I tried out your technique and it works pretty good, much better than choking on snuff, lol. That poschl video was very good and informative, their operation definately impressed me.
Roderick its awesome that you ship for free, sounds like a great deal and I'll definately be trying out your stuff at some point :)
Ok, bought some WE Garrett's sweet and mild. I love it, I didn't expect to smell so great. I'm still trying to figure out how to keep from pulling it half way down my throat though, I guess that just comes with practice and time. I have a sampler coming from Dholakia and 3 different scents of Dutch Windmill coming in the next few days. I just kind of jumped in with both feet.
Try not to snort your snuff. Gently sniffing is a good way to start. Try taking a pinch between your forefinger and thumb then take it to your nose, but don’t block it and just as you sniff part your thumb and forefinger letting air pass over the snuff so that the snuff rests just inside your nose. If you find you are still inhaling too deeply, try gently rubbing a mild snuff on to the thin membrane that separates your nostrils this works beautifully and rapidly absorbs the nicotine.
You can also try a bullet. Don’t make the mistake of pointing your bullet straight up your nose. Tilt the bullet forward so that the snuff sits in the dip above your palate. It is here that I find it most satisfying, as this way the olfactory nerves are able to get the most from the snuff.
It is practically impossible to sniff snuff into your lungs. The reason you start to cough is because a mechanism in your windpipe is kicking into gear, which prevents the snuff from reaching your lungs.
I only state this, so to let any new snuffers out there know snuff although inhaled will never reach your lungs to contaminate them.
That's an excellent thought, why didn’t I say that? If inhaled deeply the snuff hits the back of the throat and that’s what provokes coughing, it then trickles down the throat and is ingested. Beginers have nothing to fear from deeply inhaling other than a coughing fit.
By George, I think I've got it; through much research, coaching, PRACTICE, and reading I've finally got the hang of the "precise sniff" that is so widely documented as the proper method for enjoying fine snuff. This adventure started with a snort (rude and obnoxious), moved on to an inhale (particularly uncomfortable), and has finally evolved into a "precise sniff" that gently settles the aromatic dust on the inside of my nose (it still tickles a bit, but it's a wonderful little tickle). Take heart other beginners as this entire evolution took only a day of trial, error, and persistence. I still get a little excited sometimes and get it (painfully) wrong, but I now have wonderful reason to slow down, take my time, and get it right. It is such a delicate process that it is so easily missed, especially for an American, being that we are ALWAYS in a hurry. Thanks guys for the coaching...
Merdock69, If you are enjoying the scent of Garrets Sweet & Mild you might like to try Tube Rose or Honey Bee. They both have a great scent. And for a real pleasant burnt tobacco "barbecue" scent, go for Rooster or WE Garret Scotch or the harder to find Levi Garret.
Tried the W.E. Garret's scotch snuff, you're absolutely right, the scent is very much like barbecue (BBQ or Bar-B-Q, as we Texans like to spell it... you know us rednecks ;->) I think I like I like the sweet & mild and other scented snuffs better indoors, but the scotch snuff I like when I'm outdoors working.