Well that's a load of BS. What now, we have to mail an IMO?

Ugh.

I hope this doesn't affect the US shops and distros, or I'll be stuck with Garrett only.

This whole visa/mastercard thing better apply to ALL products that Americans purchase online from the UK and not just tobacco or else I am gonna really be pissed! What about Discover or American Express? Do any of these companies accept these? What about Paypal?? So this whole issue must affect snus purchases as well?? Before I get my panties further up in a bunch I will wait to hear from some of the UK stores here...

I just placed orders with Northerner and Toque tonight, both went through with no problems. I hope this is not true.

My smoking shop sent me an e-mail saying they can't ship tobacco to Brazil. what the hell is going on ?

sigh of releif

Pay-Pal don't do any tobacco related transactions!!!!!!!

Don't worry we've got the OK as snuff is seen as a safe alternative to smoking by our CC processing company. Though some of these CC companies are now telling their customers what they can and can't buy. Alcohol is next, then guns followed by fatty foods, McDonalds watch out. 1984 here we come.

Racing pigeons???

How DARE the CC companies try to dictate what their customers can buy!
This is an outrage!

Hi All,

Not a problem for Snuff Store, but this and has been bubbling for a while. Fortunately Snuff Store has an understanding, if a little strict processor - there's only a few UK based processing companies left that we can use, it's all very 'big brother' with processing companies telling us what's best for our health!

PayPal is not an option Snifs, they banned tobacco sales on their processor ages ago, long before the others got on their high horse about it. I think a couple of stores fell foul of this when it happened, had their accounts frozen and a real fight to get money back - it may have pushed a few 'under'.

Ta-Ta
Tim

Snuff Store

Dave - the only trouble wwith that I have found is them putting a limit of 1 non-US transaction per 30 days. I had to call and yell at them to make them take it off.

Yes, because of the card processors, NickKick. Visa and MC are telling the vendors what they can receive payment for and what they can't.

Sadly, I received the e-mail back from Simon at My Smoking Shop today. No more U.S. orders. What a terrible shame. Looks like Toque is still in the game for now. Any other UK vendors still able to sell. How about Rajek's? Did they get hit by this too?

What about alcohol? The bottom line is this is your money, and a legal item you wish to buy with it. It's simply an infringement on your rights as a private citizen. Is it the actual credit cards? Or an inbetween? As other shops said they are fine. And Spyro, you could ask them if they'd accept an IMO, or US cash even. Sure the mail time, is a drag. I have done both with non snuff pruchases overseas, and it was OK.

Going back a few threads...

It's not a new problem, nor is it a specific UK / European problem, nor has it effected all sites - as Roderick said, he's fine. Snuff Store hasn't a problem with accepting international orders - although our processor is a little strict.

I think the problem was first encountered in the US, it's now making it's way round the globe. Hence why some US sites who've had their processing facility removed use Canadian companies to process orders. Or manually process the card through a terminal after the order has been made on site - which is a big 'no-no' as far as security of card details / terms of use of terminal is concerned, but perhaps a different story.

In the UK, as long as we use a processing company instead of a bank, we seem to be fine. The problem this causes is there's another 'slice of pie' being taken by the processing company... But that's better than not being able to accept any card orders!

International Bank Transfers are another option. I don't think any store would have a problem accepting these, so why not ask the store in question if this is a viable alternative? I certainly don't have a problem with accepting this method of payment and a number of Snuff Store's international customers use this option - if you want Snuff Store's Swift Bic details, then drop me a line.

International Money Orders - do you mean like Western Union? There's very few locations for these in the UK and they had a bad reputation for money laundering a few years ago... But I'm not sure about the viabilty of accepting payment using this method as I've never been asked, I could enquire if it was the preferred route of a customer and there was an office local enough to make the journey to pick up worthwhile.

Strangely there's now a few 'new' online payment methods available - such as paying at a outlet like a petrol station, like what people do with pre-paid gas and electric meters and getting a code to enter on the online store, although I think these are still localised to the 'host' country. If enough people wanted this method, then I'd look into that too.

Ta-Ta
Tim

Snuff Store

IMO is just like an MO, it's not a check, but you take an amount of money and get an IMO for it, and it's a piece of paper, like a check, but it's not from a bank account, it's like actual money(the amount on it, that you already paid for). And then that is mailed. And then, what about personal checks? I know they have to be held to clear. But I guess that's an option too, even for non-US stores? I don't know. There is another pay format, ebay users used to use it alot... I have/had an account, but haven't used it in years... I can't even remember the name of it now, but it was popular a while back, as an alternative. But could't one also just email the shop with one's CC info? I am not having these problems with my purchasing, just wondering what options would be available if I did.

This sucks.

My Smoking Shop had a lot of the harder to find stuff. Now the only place to order such things as the Poschl Schmalzler's and Swedish Match snuffs is from Rajek's.

Nope.

It says that they cannot SHIP anything to the US. So no matter how you pay, they still can't SHIP it.

It sure is confusing.

It makes it sound like it's not the CC company, but maybe MSS just doesn't want to deal with shipments to the US anymore.

If it was the CC then they would have to sell everything by mail order, like Mars did for a while.

I don't know if they don't want US business..

It just doesn't add up, is all I'm saying.