Sadly, I received the e-mail back from Simon at My Smoking Shop today. No more U.S. orders. What a terrible shame. Looks like Toque is still in the game for now. Any other UK vendors still able to sell. How about Rajek's? Did they get hit by this too?

What about alcohol? The bottom line is this is your money, and a legal item you wish to buy with it. It's simply an infringement on your rights as a private citizen. Is it the actual credit cards? Or an inbetween? As other shops said they are fine. And Spyro, you could ask them if they'd accept an IMO, or US cash even. Sure the mail time, is a drag. I have done both with non snuff pruchases overseas, and it was OK.

Going back a few threads...

It's not a new problem, nor is it a specific UK / European problem, nor has it effected all sites - as Roderick said, he's fine. Snuff Store hasn't a problem with accepting international orders - although our processor is a little strict.

I think the problem was first encountered in the US, it's now making it's way round the globe. Hence why some US sites who've had their processing facility removed use Canadian companies to process orders. Or manually process the card through a terminal after the order has been made on site - which is a big 'no-no' as far as security of card details / terms of use of terminal is concerned, but perhaps a different story.

In the UK, as long as we use a processing company instead of a bank, we seem to be fine. The problem this causes is there's another 'slice of pie' being taken by the processing company... But that's better than not being able to accept any card orders!

International Bank Transfers are another option. I don't think any store would have a problem accepting these, so why not ask the store in question if this is a viable alternative? I certainly don't have a problem with accepting this method of payment and a number of Snuff Store's international customers use this option - if you want Snuff Store's Swift Bic details, then drop me a line.

International Money Orders - do you mean like Western Union? There's very few locations for these in the UK and they had a bad reputation for money laundering a few years ago... But I'm not sure about the viabilty of accepting payment using this method as I've never been asked, I could enquire if it was the preferred route of a customer and there was an office local enough to make the journey to pick up worthwhile.

Strangely there's now a few 'new' online payment methods available - such as paying at a outlet like a petrol station, like what people do with pre-paid gas and electric meters and getting a code to enter on the online store, although I think these are still localised to the 'host' country. If enough people wanted this method, then I'd look into that too.

Ta-Ta
Tim

Snuff Store

IMO is just like an MO, it's not a check, but you take an amount of money and get an IMO for it, and it's a piece of paper, like a check, but it's not from a bank account, it's like actual money(the amount on it, that you already paid for). And then that is mailed. And then, what about personal checks? I know they have to be held to clear. But I guess that's an option too, even for non-US stores? I don't know. There is another pay format, ebay users used to use it alot... I have/had an account, but haven't used it in years... I can't even remember the name of it now, but it was popular a while back, as an alternative. But could't one also just email the shop with one's CC info? I am not having these problems with my purchasing, just wondering what options would be available if I did.

Hmmm, this seems kinda insane. Wouldn´t it be safer, if tobacco products could be bought with credit cards only? I mean, credit cards aren´t available for minors, are they?
It seems rather as a sorry excuse for selfproclaimed, radicalized tobacco-enemies to gain some "achievements" in their sorry lives. If nothing else helps, push the "kids" up front, this allways works (you can win any debate with proclaiming "child protection" issues...).
I wouldn´t go as far as calling those folks fascists, but they´re going way too far for sure. What´s the next step? Will they determine, who´s allowed to have kids in terms of meeting their standards, and who´s not?
All that´s needed is a bit more reason, but this can´t be accomplished by any possible law...

This whole direction the CC companies are taking is just plain nuts. But so far, I´ve had no problems. Good old Europe... :)

Snifs !! That is an excellent idea !! I hope our beloved suppliers take note of that and see if that is feasible.

Dave

P.S. Hopefully it would not have to come to that, but none the less it would be an excellent disaster contingency plan !!

This sucks.

My Smoking Shop had a lot of the harder to find stuff. Now the only place to order such things as the Poschl Schmalzler's and Swedish Match snuffs is from Rajek's.

Nope.

It says that they cannot SHIP anything to the US. So no matter how you pay, they still can't SHIP it.

It sure is confusing.

It makes it sound like it's not the CC company, but maybe MSS just doesn't want to deal with shipments to the US anymore.

If it was the CC then they would have to sell everything by mail order, like Mars did for a while.

I don't know if they don't want US business..

It just doesn't add up, is all I'm saying.

Quote from Leman's initial post:

"Recently My Smoking Shop has stopped shipping to the US. When I contacted them, they said that it is permanent, and the reason is restrictions from Visa and Mastercard, and that no UK Tobacconist can ship to the US."

Well, I get the impression they just don't want to ship to the US and made that up as an excuse, as we have had 2 UK sellers tell us that is not true. And that's their choice, we have US sellers that don't ship out of the country as well.

With Snuff Store getting in Chapman, Paul Gotard, Three Musketeers and more Sammy G, maybe they will start to stock some of the more obscure stuff soon. I'm also hoping that Nicotine Rush will be able to expand it's inventory as well.

I have a system for ordering snuffs, and MSS was my Sam Gawith shop, they have the biggest selection of SG that I have found. Snuff Store is getting a large SG selection, so I'll just get it there from now on. I really do prefer doing business with Tim, than with MSS, so this isn't all bad.