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    • CommentAuthorLanark
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     # 1
    I know there are a few posts on here about making your own snuff but I’m curious about how the professionals do it. Every once in a while Roderick makes a short reference to “taking a pinch from the barrel” or some other brief reference to his production facility. These tend to lead me off into Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, or should I say ‘Roderick and the Snuff Factory” fantasies. I was wondering if he or the folks from Dholakia would be interested in providing us with a brief e-tour. I’m not asking for trade secrets or fancy promotional videos or anything of that sort, just the surface details like what said barrel might look like, that sort of thing (maybe a pic if we are lucky!). For that matter it would be neat to hear about what anyone knows about snuff production on scale greater than the coffee grinder/screen method.
  1.  # 2
    Uh-oh. Now you've done it. We're all going to be buying up toque trying to get one of the tins with the golden ticket! Hope it includes free airfare.

    Getting a peek inside is a great idea though, Lanark. Roderick, Namrata, Jaap...open up, we want in!
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      CommentAuthorPoo-Diddy
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     # 3
    Somebody from the yahoo snuff group posted this video on how Poschl's are made on youtube.

    Here is the link: Poschl Tobacco Video

    At the 4:15 minute mark it goes into pretty much excactly what I think you are looking to see, although the whole video is worth watching.
    • CommentAuthorLanark
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     # 4
    Thanks for the video Poo-Diddy. Does Poschl really sell half of the snuff purchased in the world?
  2.  # 5
    I would say probably so. Many places here in the US, its the only snuff you can find. Along with 1 or 2 American snuffs, Poschl snuffs are the only ones I can find locally. More often than not its the first snuff many newbies try because its the easiest to find.
    • CommentAuthorsnuffster
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     # 6
    Advertising is completely banned in the UK so that looks like something from the 1950's to me. Very interesting, I just wonder why with all their history of developing fine tobaccos for afficionados with that certain lifestyle they are unable to produce anything other than bland, mentholated shit?
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      CommentAuthorJarhog
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     # 7
    I think they are too stuck in history to do much innovation.
  3.  # 8
    I'm sure I read somewhere that J&H Wilsons have 80% of the British snuff market.

    It's a figure I can readily believe. For an embarrassing number of years, I thought they were the only company in the world who produced snuff ! If you find snuff in a shop in the U.K. which isn't a tobacconists, it's virtually guaranteed to be their small blue tins.
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      CommentAuthorSnuffbox
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     # 9
    Farley can that be right? J&H Wilson's has 80% of the home market with only 3 varieties?

    Who are the other players (Wilsons, I know) and what are their market shares?
    • CommentAuthorMatt
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
     # 10
    Great video. Enjoyed the whole thing.
    • CommentAuthorsnuffster
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
     # 11
    I cant' see Jand H having an 80% cut ofthe market in the UK just through little tins of 99 and sp/top mill in paper shops. Maybe in the past, but nowadays they don't even have a website - which is a peculiar thing on the part of Imperial - big tobacco is not usually one to miss an opportunity, but maybe snuff has just gone under their radar. I would have thought Toque would still be catching up but they must be a serious challenger for the future.
  4.  # 12
    Yes I guess it could be an old statistic. Although the point about their distribution is still valid - have you ever seen anything but those little blue tins in a newsagents ? They've got the might of Imperial Tobacco behind them, delivering snuff along with their fags.
    • CommentAuthorsnuffster
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2008
     # 13
    Well, here in London you do get the large cans but usually only in the 'smokers paradise' chain - not sure if thats just a london outfit though. Thinking more about it, a few years ago when snuff really was getting obsolete - before the snuff boom - maybe the little blue tins were enough to give them the market lead.

    But why does'nt Imperial make more of snuff? Obviously they can't advertise here, but a website would do a lot for them.
  5.  # 14
    Maybe they go about it like the American snuff producers. They have plenty of other products making them money so they don't bother pushing their snuff. Its kind of a secondary income for the company.
    • CommentAuthorsnuffster
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2008
     # 15
    Yeah, I guess so. I suppose they figure that as long as they have Asia and Africa opening up to them for their cigarettes that they don't really need snuff. They could probably loose the entire UK market for all their products and not feel it.