It might be but something is clearly hurting him. I would hate not to get a second chance when I f***k up, which has been more than once! He's apologised and that is good enough for me.
It's one thing to "F" up in real life, knowing what ramifications may occur, but on the "net" everyone has a sense of imortality! Everyone is Cocky, thinking ther will be no consequences. There are no faces to deal with!! That's why there are so many trolls here in the first place! I say 2nd chances are earned on snuffhouse.org Especially after such drama has taken place.
Well, I can see your point but he can only earn his second chance by being allowed to carry on posting and getting involved. I don't think there should ever be more than a second chance though. The thing that has swung it for me is that he has made an apology, without any reservations. I would never extend this to persistent trolls but if someone says Im sorry, my life has fallen apart and Ive done something stupid then I personally am happy to give them a second chance. Call it a probation if you like. Maybe my job influences me - I see a lot of people that act out of character because of life events; they are not hardened criminals just people like any member of your family that has temporarily gone off the rails. If no lasting or significant damage or hurt has been done and we are convinced of their remorse - minor misdemanours - we can caution them rather than jail them. But no one gets a third chance.
I do agree that effective moderation is necessary. That doesn't mean that it has to be in any way heavy-handed but anyone causing trouble and disruption, behaving in any other than a gentlemanly fashion, does need dealing with promptly. Without that we end up with the sort of situation we can see all too often on the SnuffBox mailing list. I don't think anyone is calling for all messages to be vetted before they go "live" but rather to have the possibility of dealing with messages and members as required. This, in my view, requires more than one moderator, so that there is no significant down time, with nobody at the helm.
I own and/or co-moderate quite a few mailing lists (hobby-related but nothing to do with snuff), a couple of them quite large. All have more than one moderator and in all of them abuse and trouble making is dealt with very promptly, making them friendly and sociable places to "hang out". The net result is that such problems are thankfully very uncommon and rarely do I find I or the others mods have to wield the big stick. I don't see an internet based forum like this being any different to an email list in that respect.
Ideally, once Alex is back it would be great if he could appoint two or three co-moderators, preferably from all around the world so that the time zone problem is covered - say, another one in Europe, one in the Americas and one in the Far East or Australasia. I do hope he takes that step as without it we will eventually see existing members dropping out as the forum becomes increasingly dominated by the sort of behaviour we have seen on occasions of late.
Occurances like this should be really prevented at all costs,even undertaking the drastic measure to delete/ban the violating user. It was all ha-ha,till now,acting racist and stuff like that isn't really any place in here,you know there are actually people behind these nicks,and definetly theres no place for racism in RL.
Just a thought, but aren't we all being moderators? Maybe this is the way to do it. Talking rationally about what the perpetrator has said, not shouting back, just using our intelligence to deal with rabble rousers and educate them to the benefit of all. Snuffster and others have whispered and put right all of the wrongs committed in the most enlightened and civilised manner.
how would someone yell on a forum does it constitute typing ALL IN CAPS or just!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or does it require a combo of CAPS AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well u never offended or sent anything nasty to me hydra i like snuffster would be more then glad to help. I have been through a lot in my life and that has helped shaped my future career as a pychologist. As it seems you must have a lot on your plate right now and looks like you could use some help in copin with em. Hope ur problems work themselves out.
I would make a terrible moderator. I would also make a terrible cop. I know this about myself and so don't want to be given any offical power to abuse. Plus I know when I feel put upon I can be abusive as moderator there are times I would certainly be far from impartial. Plus I'am a bit bi-polar and that doesn't make me have much clearity at times, see my would have been moderated (been edited instead) post to snuffbox. Also I can be very impulsive at times which I actualy find to be a mostly good thing but not in a postion that requires calmness and evenhandedness.