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I too quit dipping due to the terrible heartburn, I was getting it 3-4 times a day. Snus gives me a little heartburn occasionally, but nothing like what I got with the dip. I still dip and chew on occasion, especially when I'm hunting or fishing when snuffing isn't practical, but 99% of my tobacco use now is snuff.
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I'm trying the camel frost for the first time. in fact just got it today. I wasn't a dipper before or bandit user and I don't think this stuff will convert me. I'll finish the tin and it's back to just the nasal snuff for me.
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hey acid, you shouldn't use it like dip. You know that right? It goes in the upper lip and just sits. No need for dipping or spitting. I'd recommend getsnus.com free can offer to get a taste of proper snus. I liked it, maybe too much if you get my meaning. The little lump in my lip became very comfortable there, to the point that I didn't want to remove it, long after the majority of the flavor was gone. Kept me from smoking too!
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I have heard a lot (read: A LOT) about the Camel Snus, though mostly bad. Perhaps, the expectations are part of the bad reviews - I don't know. I have yet to try it myself, but I don't think I would be inclined to do so. I live in the heartland of snus (Sweden), and have so many wonderful snus products available to me at every corner store, so why bother, right?
The first time I tried snus a few years ago, I didn't like it at all! I had a tin of General and a tin of Montecristo - I wound up chucking both tins. First I did a lot of spitting due to the excess saliva buildup. I quickly realized, that I was the only one doing that, so I swallowed the juiced up saliva instead. I got sick to my stomach, unlike anything I had ever tried before with tobacco (hookah, pipe, cigs, snuff...), so I concluded it simply wasn't for me.
Recently I decided to give snus another chance and bought a tin of Ettan (portion). I'm not entirely sure why I decided to give it another chance. Either I don't remember all too well or I simply didn't want to believe that it could be so bad, since so many Swedes use it. I can document that both statements are entirely correct :) The experience is entirely different now. I don't get sick to my stomach anymore and the whole experience of snus is quite remarkable. My nic tolerance hasn't changed much over the years, so I'm not entirely sure why (or what) things have changed.
I'm not (yet) a snusaholic, though. My primary nicotine delivery system is still Camel unfiltered, but given the ease of use of snus, I would not be surprised if that changed. Snuff is my secondary system. It just might turn out that snus and snuff is a match made in heaven.
If you have been giving Camel snus a whirl and decided against snus based on that experience, give some real Swedish snus a try. Start small, make sure you have eaten something and have a beverage at the ready (preferably plain, chilled water). Give something like Ettan, Göteborgs Rapé or General a go. The prickly sensation on your gum and lip will go away fairly quickly and if you start feeling a bit queasy, dump the portion, and have a drink or a snack and then try again. It worked for this Dane, at least.
Snus products of the "stark" variety give me the same powerful nic buzz that cigs used to give me when I first started smoking. The cool part is that it doesn't seem to wear off the more you use it. I don't know why, but personally, I'm not exactly disliking it :)
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I tried the Camel Snus first when I stopped smoking, the whole smoke free spit free sign at the gas station had me interested. After the first pouch, I lost interest. I fed the tin to the garbage and went out and bought snuff. I'm just not the kind of person for oral tobacco products, but I'm not doubting there is probably great snus is Sweden and such since that's where it originated. All in all I give the Camel Snus 2 thumbs down.
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So my thought is if the cancer causing agents are lower in this stuff but can cause pancriatic cancer if swalloed..why not just dip it and spit the saliva..more of a win win situation? or am i missing something??
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The amount of juice is actualy very little, especialy if you put it in a low saliva area like the front of your mouth over your front teeth. The chances of it causing cancer are much less than American dip snuffs due to the way the tobacco is prepared. Further, if you are a smoker, you are twice as likely to develop pancreatic cancer than being a snus user (and you shouldn't be swallowing smoke). Hell, even coffee is linked to pancreatic cancer.
But if you want to, you still have the option of spitting snus juice. Just like the nasal drainage you get from snuff, do you spit it out or swallow it? Its probably worse to swallow that then snus juicce. -
any juice i get with the snus i spit it..snus is less likely to cause oral cancer then regularr dip so i figured that was a win, then if i spit the juice it wont give me the risk of the pancriatic cancer and whatnot...
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I don't really like the whole tobacco in the mouth thing. Just nasal snuff for me thanks
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Have recently tried "Frost" & "Mellow"... have not had "Original" or "Spice".
"Frost" tastes like toothpaste... does not give me what I want RE: Nic Kick...
"Mellow" tastes like... uh, Idunno, ButterScotch/Caramel/Honey... does not give me what I want RE: Nic Kick...
HOWEVER: I like them both for what they are (just prefer Granit/GotLand's GraSnus/Skruf Stark -- none of which give me what I want RE: Nic Kick, but ALOT closer than the Camel "Stuf"... er, "Snus").
Tend to prefer snuff over snus. For that "Nic Kick": it's NEITHER snuff NOR snus: it's a hefty pipe tobacco (i.e. NightCap, Bow-Legged Bear, Cob Flake - a/k/a "1792 Flake") or Copenhagen LongCut/Skoal "Classic"/Grizzly "Natural".
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I'm still on the snuff side of the fence having only tried the Camel Snus, American dips, chews and pouches. I concede that I probably am missing out on an entirely different form of tobacco enjoyment, but I'm really wrapped up in the sunuff world right now and have too many irons in the fire to branch off into snus. Maybe later on. Sounds like you guys are having some great experiences with it tho. Thanks for the insights and enjoy it.