cstokes4: Me too. I ordered some recently and found the whole thing very unpleasant. And talk about salivating! I was like a hungry dog in a butchers shop. Cool tin though. I'm using it to keep my gaming dice in now.
Troutstoker suggested I try a free sample tin available at getsnus.com. I chose the General White Portion. The other option (unflavored) is the General mini portion. I picked the white mainly because its bigger. I have no idea how I will take to it. I'm guessing from what I've read so far that I will not notice much of anything. Either that or I will fall desperatly head over heels in love with it as I did with dipping snuff many years ago (we are now divorced).
I was hoping it would be here today. I'm anxious, I'll keep my progress posted on this tread.
PS. I first heard of Snus a couple of years ago. I told myself, no, No, No!, NO!, NO!!! Never again with the oral stuff!! I don't listen to myself very well.
General White is some really good snus, Xander. It's got a nice tobacco flavor with bergamot and lemon and a bit of a peppery tone. It's definitely become one of my go to snus brands, so I think you may like it a lot. If not, you can always mail it to me! LOL And that goes for anybody that tries any Swedish Match or other decent snus that doesn't like it. I might even trade a tin or bullet of snuff if it's something that I can bear to part with.
There are only a few snus I've not liked. The offroad Wintergreen (which has a strange other flavour I can't place). And the probe whiskey (with licorice flavour.). with both its the flavour combination. That said General is an amazing snus by the way.
Xander that was at getsnus.com, and it should arrive soon because they have fast shipping. And yes the General White is a good snus. A great snus for someone trying it for the first time. And like mentioned before, if you don't enjoy your first experience, give it a little more time over the following week.
@Trout. I beg your pardon. getsnus.com it was. I shall edit the post for posterity. "Give it a little more time" he says he hehe he! You sir, are a little devil on my left shouder! Enough time to get hooked right? That's what the kindly folks at getsnus are hoping.
I had intendend to finish the whole tin, no matter what anyway. Back in the day when I was experimenting with dipping snuff I bought a tin of Copenhagen, and two different Skoal varieties, just to see what would happen! I intended to finish them all before I made any decisions. All I learned was that after the 3rd of 4th time, I really liked it in either variety. As mentioned before I was hooked on that for 3 years and then some.
PS. She left me in the divorce, not vice versa. Hard as it may to be to believe, my supply dried up. I actually could not get dip without considerable trouble, so I decided it was time to let go. My first wife (smoking cigarettes) helped me ease the pain. Now with snuff, I guess I practicing bigamy again. If snus enters into this love triangle, what do we call it?
Xander, with some snus an open can will "age" a bit. So if you hate it at first a day or two in the fridge might change the taste a bit. I have a few snus that I can't stand when they are freshly opened, so I have to break the seal and let the sit.
Just as with snuff sometimes, really fresh snus sometimes has an ammonia odor when you first open it. If that disturbs you (doesn't bother me) you may want to open the can and let it air a bit. Leaving it open to air too long may dry it out though, so you may wanna stick the snus in the fridge and just open in once in a while...that should be sufficient to improve the smell.
So, I'm in a local convenience store last night and I notice they have this huge display of Camel Snus. I asked the clerk about it and she told me they sell a lot of it. I tried some free samples in the past but didn't care for it but apparently someone is using this stuff. It didn't give me much nicotine and I also have a hang up about swallowing tobacco. I'm thinking it can't possibly be healthy to do that. To be fair tho, I've never tried the 'real' snus, i.e Swedish stuff and the like.
I don't think there's anyway around swallowing some degree of snuff. I keep a cup on hand and spit out my sinus drainage constantly. I just try to minimize it as much as possible. I do tend to take in rather large sniffs tho and some of the brands will drain more than others. As nasty as it may sound, some flavors actually leave a pleasant taste in the throat. Tho I digress, this has nothing to do with snus or dip.
Digress all you wish. The thread started with a very different topic. You're the one who tried to bring it back to Camel. We've all digressed. Anyway, I spit out whenver I can too. I also know what you mean by the pleasant taste in the throat, especially among the American Sweet Snuffs. What bothers me, is that it didn't used to be pleasant. Smoking which is unpleasant at first, beccomes very pleasant with repeated use. Snuff taking, both oral and nasal also go from being unpleasant to pleasant. Do you see the pattern? Is my throat getting coating with and absorbing nicotine regularly becoming addictive?
When I dipped, I used to get an actual sort of itch of sorts in my lip when I hadn't had one in awhile. I know I need to smoke when I get a sort of ache or itch in my lungs. I think in addition to the actual nicotine in the bloodstream, which is addictive, the actual place of entry seems to get addicted on its own. Anyway, in trying to prevent this (as I think the throat is much more dangerous place for this to be than anywhere else) I am practicing a method of force blowing air out my nose (along the sinus) whenever I feel the snuff working its way up there. If it gets too far, I give myself a big hankie blow, then wait a few minutes and take another pinch.
I can't comment on smoking since I only do the occasional pipe and a very rare cigar now and then. I know that from snuffing a whole lot of the stuff goes down the old pipe. Try keeping a cup or bottle around when you snuff and get in the habit of hawking and spitting just after a pinch or two. You'll find the container is quite full of brackisch fluid which would otherwise end up in your gut. I personally feel that snuff is the safest form of nicotine absorption but I shudder at the idea of ingesting that stff into my GI tract.
Since my wastebasket is usually full of used tisues, I usually just spit into it. I kept a spitting cup around the first week or so I snuffed. I had a few horribly messy accidents back in my dipping days, so I stopped keeping the cup around.
If swallowed, I'd actually expect the GI tract to neutralize most of it. There's so much acid and liquid down there I would think it would get both neutralized and diluted. Anyway, this should all be short term, as I expect to be able to keep it out of the throat entirely, before long.
I know that those full cups of dip juice can be messy. I knocked a full one off the counter at work one day. That stuff went everywhere. Yuck. I haven't dipped in 3 days. Thankfully, the snuff is taking care of my nicotine needs.
i don't see swallowing a little snuff as a big worry it seems to me that as safe as snuff seems to be that it shouldnt cause too much harm. After all it is only a plant and i eat those everyday :)
OK as posted before, I would update you when my free sample from getsnus.com arrived. It is here and it is in my mouth. General white portion, that is. The taste is not unpleasant. I am only now starting to feel a little buzz, and its been in about 10 minutes. Haven't smoked or snuff for awhile in order to get the full experience.
I'm having a hard time just letting it sit there. I'm trying to resist the urge to squeeze it with my lip. What is normal? Also I'm tending to burp a bit.
Pushing on the lip squeezing the portion is acceptable, I do it. Also swallowing tobacco juice can cause indigestion on some people especially on a empty stomach & those not use to it. You may find it better to occasionally take a sip of liquid while its in your lip till you get more use to it.
I don't know if this happens with snus, but back when I used to use dip I'd get heartburn and acid reflux every now and then. Might be something to watch for. Maybe keep some Tums on hand just in case.
A lot of that problem (not all) is caused by the actual spitting of saliva especially if your dipping a lot & spitting the whole time. Your stomach & throat need that saliva, it helps to keep stomach acid down. I would occasionally have the same problem on heavy dipping days especially if I went long periods without eating or drinking anything.
A year and a half ago while I was in Oregon Camel did a test market with their SNUS. It was a pellet form (size of a rat turd) that actually tasted like tobacco. Now, they have released it in Arizona in pouches. The product in no way matches what I was expecting. I won't waste my bucks on this stuff.
Trout, That makes sense about excessive spitting. Never considered that but now that I use snuff instead there's no need to worry about it. I still spit when I get drainage but not nearly as much as I used to with dip or chew. I burned out quick on chew since it just didn't seem to hold its flavor long enough and tore the heck out of my mouth.